re: Worst President in your lifetime?

Carter Obama tie.

Has to be a tie for the bottom. Biden, Obama, and Carter. There is no way any of those 3 could outdo each other for last place considering they are all about as weak and feckless as you can get in overseas policy and just utter incompetent running domestic policy.

IMO, the only POTUS in my lifetime (born in ‘78) who was a truly great leader and representative of the United States in terms of his politics, his integrity, his respectability (both domestically and abroad), and his intellect was Ronald Reagan. I’m not a fan of any of the others.

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George W Bush. Wins by a landslide!!

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I would tend to agree. But in the end, it is quibbling over insignificant details. The true winner of the Cold War was the American Deep State.

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War on Poverty/Great Society and Vietnam set the country on the path to ruin.

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Certainly the once “unthinkable” —a Deep State plot to assassinate a sitting President — does not seem so far-fetched anymore after the unmasking of the wholly corrupt nature of our nation’s national security apparatus that has been revealed in the past few decades.

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The Bushes are when things went south. That’s when the deep state got balls

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The left wing of the CIA won out over the right wing in the 1992 election.




The Crimes of Mena Arkansas

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MENA, Ark. -- What do Bill Clinton and Oliver North have in common, along with the Arkansas State Police and the Central Intelligence Agency? All probably wish they had never heard of Mena.

President Clinton was asked at his Oct. 7 press conference about Mena, a small town and airport in the wilds of Western Arkansas. Sarah McClendon, a longtime Washington curmudgeon renowned for her off-the-wall questions, wove a query around the charge that a base in Mena was "set up by Oliver North and the CIA" in the 1980s and used to "bring in planeload after planeload of cocaine" for sale in the U.S., with the profits then used to buy weapons for the Contras. Was he told as Arkansas governor? she asked.

"No," the president replied, "they didn't tell me anything about it." The alleged events "were primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it. The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was in the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under the jurisdiction of the United States Attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing -- zero -- to do with it."

It was Mr. Clinton's lengthiest remark on the murky affair since it surfaced nearly a decade ago, in the middle of his long tenure as governor of Arkansas. And while the president may be correct to suggest that Mena is an even bigger problem for previous Republican administrations, he was wrong on just about every other count. The state of Arkansas had plenty to do with Mena, and Mr. Clinton left many unanswered questions behind when he moved to Washington.

Anyone who thinks that Mena is not serious should speak to William Duncan, a former Internal Revenue Service investigator who, together with Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch, has fought a bitter 10-year battle to bring the matter to light. They pinned their hopes on nine separate state and federal probes. All failed.

"The Mena investigations were never supposed to see the light of day," says Mr. Duncan, now an investigator with the Medicaid Fraud Division of the office of Arkansas Attorney General Winston Bryant. "Investigations were interfered with and covered up, and the justice system was subverted."

The mysteries of Mena, detailed on this page on June 29, center on the activities of a drug-smuggler-turned-informant named Adler Berriman "Barry" Seal. Mr. Seal began operating at Mena Intermountain Regional Airport in 1981. At the height of his career, according to Mr. Welch, Mr. Seal was importing as much as 1,000 pounds of cocaine a month.

By 1984, Mr. Seal was an informant for the Drug Enforcement Agency and flew at least one sting operation to Nicaragua for the CIA, a mission known to have drawn the attention of Mr. North. By 1986, Mr. Seal was dead, gunned down by Colombian hitmen in Baton Rouge, La. Eight months after Mr. Seal's murder, his cargo plane, which had been based at Mena, was shot down over Nicaragua with Eugene Hasenfus and a load of Contra supplies aboard.....

Read More: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB920421328276427000

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Bush sure let me down but you are off by a mile. Look at the one in there now. Don't forget big ears too. I used to think Bill would be the worst ever but these present fools are protecting Bill. In recent past: worst.. Biden, Obama, Carter, Clinton.

Even though I think he's the best human being of all the Presidents in my lifetime, it's Jimmy Carter. Wonderful man, horrible President.

I have no doubt that our current President will overpass Carter as worst - and Biden is a shitty person to boot.

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So far, it’s been Obama hands-down. But there’s plenty of time for Biden to catch up and he’s doing it relatively quickly

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That's because it's Obama and his old crew pulling Joe's strings.