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re: Woman turns down pardon from President Trump
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:19 am to udtiger
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:19 am to udtiger
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She may say she does not accept it, but the legal effects of the pardon will inure to her all the same.
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In the 1833 case United States v. Wilson, Chief Justice John Marshall wrote for the Court that a pardon is a private “act of grace,” a “deed, to the validity of which, delivery is essential, and delivery is not complete, without acceptance. It may then be rejected by the person to whom it is tendered; and if it be rejected, we have discovered no power in a court to force it on him.” 1 Though the Court in Wilson doubted that a “being condemned to death would reject a pardon,” it recognized that a pardon might be rejected regardless of the gravity of the punishment, as, for instance, if the pardon were conditional “the condition may be more objectionable than the punishment inflicted by the judgment.” 2 Almost a century later, in Burdick v. United States, the Court confirmed that a pardon may be refused, at least where other constitutional rights are at stake.3 Burdick involved a pardon issued by President Woodrow Wilson to George Burdick, an editor at the New York Tribune, for any federal offenses he “may have committed” in connection with the publication of an article regarding alleged customs fraud, despite the fact that Burdick had not been charged with any crime at the time of the pardon.4 The apparent motivation for the pardon was that Burdick had refused to testify before a grand jury investigating the involvement of Treasury Department officials in leaks concerning the wrongdoing, asserting his Fifth Amendment right not to provide testimony that would tend to incriminate him.5 Despite President Wilson’s issuance of the pardon, Burdick “refused to accept” it and continued to refuse to answer certain questions put to him before the grand jury.6 The Supreme Court in Burdick assumed that the pardon was within the President’s power to issue and concluded that “it was Burdick’s right to refuse it” and stand on his Fifth Amendment objection.7
George Wilson is executed after refusing a pardon
I'm not up to date; has anything changed?
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 8:20 am
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:19 am to theballguy
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That doesn't explain your original take.
Sure it does.
Regardless of whether she accepts it, she's been pardoned. Period. Her voting rights and rights to own a firearm have been restored. If she chooses not to exercise them, that is her choice, but those rights are restored.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:20 am to salty1
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Someone wrote a check to this bitch. 100% certainty.
$100 says her first stop after being released will be The View.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:23 am to theballguy
KTVB
Pamela Anne Hemphill Statement of Facts.pdf
She was a plant from the get go.
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Published: 1:29 PM MDT September 30, 2024
Updated: 1:29 PM MDT September 30, 2024
IDAHO, USA — This story originally appeared in the Idaho Press.
She sits on a street corner outside the state Capitol grounds, every Wednesday and Saturday from 4 to 7 p.m.
Wearing a T-shirt bearing the phrase “Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body” — a now-notorious tongue-twister uttered by Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) to Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) in a May congressional hearing — Pam Hemphill, 71, films herself dancing to songs like “Put A Little Love In Your Heart” while waving a Harris-Walz sign, often posing for selfies with supportive passers-by.
Pamela Anne Hemphill Statement of Facts.pdf
She was a plant from the get go.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:23 am to IvoryBillMatt
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She has gone full Lefty:
She may have been a plant or an operative.
They are easy to identify by the lack of severity in their prosecution / charges.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:31 am to jrodLSUke
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> moved to Boise from California
> recovering from addiction
> drug and alcohol counselor.
> denies election fraud
> considers MAGA to be a cult
Yeah, this old lady is not, and never was, a Republican. Just a dumb old lady that's looking for attention.
She even has on the 'uniform'. You can spot a liberal by their style of dress.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:33 am to udtiger
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Pretty sure she doesn't have a choice in the matter.
I think she does. One doesn't have to accept a pardon. Attorneys?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:43 am to theballguy
Fay Epps
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
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She has gone full Lefty:
Or she was always lefty. I don't put it past leftists to place plants into right wing political activity. They're simply that insane about their politics and they have a ton of activist types that think of themselves as KGB progressive assets.
Left wing progressives can be quite insane.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:51 am to theballguy
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One of the people who served jail time for taking part in the US Capitol riot four years ago has refused a pardon from President Donald Trump, saying: "We were wrong that day."
I wonder if she would be turning it down if she was still in jail?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:53 am to theballguy
Easy position to take when you only got 60 days and have finished the sentence, and you’re an old lady who doesn’t care about employment prospects
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:57 am to boogiewoogie1978
She's this outspoken now. You don't just "blossom" into an activist at 71. I bet there's no evidence of her outspokenness in support of Trump prior to J6 or 2016.
That's how you know she was a plant.
That's how you know she was a plant.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:57 am to SingleMalt1973
Pictures of her supporting Kamala Harris, with signs and t-shirts. She definitely ain't right in the head.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:58 am to theballguy
This is why she didn't get 30 years like others. She towed the line calling out OMB.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:26 am to SoFla Tideroller
ISWYDT
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:37 am to theballguy
She’s already NOT in prison. It was very easy for her to turn down the pardon.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:39 am to evil cockroach
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She’s already NOT in prison. It was very easy for her to turn down the pardon.
This. Only got 60 days.
So brave.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:45 am to theballguy
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Hemphill grew up in Fresno, California, and characterizes her mother, who died in 1997, as “a psychopath” who locked her in closets and pulled her hair.
“Ever seen the movie ‘Misery’? That’s my mother. Crazy. She would switch on you in a second, from being real kind to very violent,” she said. Her five stepfathers, she says, “were all narcissists” as well.
“I was beaten, molested. I don’t know how I survived to be 13,” she said. “But 13 is when I found alcohol with my friends… [who] stole booze from their family. We were at a park, and they said, want to taste it? I said, why not. That started it.”
She described an adolescence filled with foster homes and stints as a runaway. At 19, she got married for the first of three times, and had her first two children. She thought this would help her put down the bottle, but it did not. Alcoholics Anonymous and its Twelve Steps, she says, saved her life in her mid-twenties, and on Aug. 10 she marked 45 years sober.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:48 am to theballguy
She’s getting paid.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 9:49 am to evil cockroach
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She’s already NOT in prison. It was very easy for her to turn down the pardon.
And if she just got a misdemeanor on her record, and not a felony.
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