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re: Woke NYT writer sent kid to troubled schools as a sacrifice, it did not go as planned

Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by junkyarddawg3
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:07 pm to
Did this NYT writer think that she, her child, and their overall situation and experience alone would change the school?

How special of her.

That stated, she does get credit from me for publicly owning up to her flawed thinking and potentially inflated ego. However, I haven’t read the story she wrote about it, so I could be mistaken.

This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:08 pm to
I read the piece, She doesn't even know what she was hoping to to accomplish for her daughter by sending her there.

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We thought by sending Najya to a mostly low-income and Black school, we could help improve it for all the children there. From my past reporting, I knew that P.T.A.s at poor schools often can raise only a few thousand dollars, but Faraji and I could write checks that exceeded the annual P.T.A. budget. I witnessed how dismissive school officials could be to lower-income parents who lodged complaints or made demands for resources and how deferential they were to wealthy ones. I believed Faraji and I could bring some of that power with us. We had connections and time and status that should not matter, but that we all know do. And more than that, we believed strongly that if families like ours went into schools like this one, it would challenge other families with similar values to do the same.
After much internal debate in our household, in 2015, we enrolled Najya in pre-K at Public School 307, a segregated, high-poverty school across from the Farragut housing projects in Brooklyn.

I wonder how much money they ended up donating to the school. She coincidentally doesn't discuss ever actually donating.

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Najya adored school and seemed to be reading and doing math on grade level.
seemed. There are ways to measure this.

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But this did not, I suppose could not, last. The dynamic, exceptional principal who headed the school when we enrolled Najya into pre-K, a woman who had herself grown up in the public housing across the street and had turned this high-poverty school into a vibrant learning community, retired at the end of the year. It was soon clear that the new principal was not up to the task of sustaining the work of the veteran educator she had replaced.
Toward the end of first grade, Najya started sometimes saying she didn’t like her school and complaining how chaotic it was at lunch. I decided to visit during the lunch period and was shocked by what I saw. Najya’s class and another class were sitting at their tables in the cafeteria with no lunch and no adult supervision. Children were running wild, chasing, hitting and pushing each other while the teacher’s aides and cafeteria workers stood by looking bored.
Several times, I had to instruct children to stop striking each other and to sit down, at one point physically pulling two boys apart. When I asked one of the aides why the children weren’t being supervised, she told me the lunch period was short-staffed. After I sat back down with Najya, she told me, “It’s always like this, and that’s why I don’t want to go to this school.”
It was not the children that horrified me — kids of all incomes are rambunctious at lunchtime. It was the callous disregard of the adults. Students respond to the high or low expectations of institutions and the grown-ups who operate them, and it was clear that these children were getting the message.
After lunch, I headed straight to the principal’s office to meet with her. Afterward, I sent a lengthy email about what I had witnessed and demanded the unsafe lunchroom conditions be addressed. In what had become a pattern when we raised concerns, it took several days before the principal responded and several more weeks of emails and calls before she announced a plan to address the lunchtime issues.
How she could leave her child there and continue to send there after witnessing this is absolutely inexcusable.

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But fourth grade was the worst year. At the first parent-teacher conference in November 2019, Najya’s teachers told us that she was not performing on grade-level in any of her academic subjects and that her assessment given at the start of the school year had shown she was not a proficient reader. We were perplexed. Najya was always a good student, and her past reading assessments were always at or above grade level.
How could she NOT know that her kid was reading below grade level? Why wouldn't you make your kid read books at home? Or bring her to the library and notice which books she gravitated to? This is a failure of the parents on so many levels. Even moreso given their own educational accomplishments.

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But our experience at P.S. 307 exposed the fallacy that caring families are more important than competent teachers.
DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS?

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But now I felt overcome with regret. Najya deserved better. They all did. But she was mine. This girl, my only child, looked to me to protect her, to give her what she needed to thrive. And I had not chosen her.
I almost cannot type the words. Because when I do, an image of her in her blue school uniform, her hair in beaded cornrows that clicked when she swung them, with her sweet, baby-toothed smile springs to mind, and the tears come.
On the phone, I knew if I tried to brush off Najya’s question, she would simply keep asking. She’s like me in that way: relentless. So I told her that I’d been reading through the old emails and that I was feeling really sad that she had gone through so much and that I had not listened more to her. “I feel like you got cheated,” I said. “And I’m sorry for that.”
This reads so performative. I can't believe this woman has the audacity to pat herself on the back for coming to the realization that she FAILED HER ONLY CHILD.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
141452 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:18 pm to
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she does get credit from me for publicly owning up to her flawed thinking
Nope.
She's just wondering if maybe, perhaps, possibly her "thinking" might have been wrong.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:19 pm to
I don't think she's deserving of credit for "walking the walk." She's a bad parent. She knew her kid went to school at a zoo and kept her there anyway. She gets no credit from me.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68886 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:23 pm to
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The school has a hydroponics lab, and Najya became a member of its food-justice club. The students took overnight field trips to Philadelphia and Washington and saw “Hamilton” on Broadway. There were Black History Month assemblies and spirit weeks.


This is all a bunch of worthless crap. None of this is educational in the least.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68886 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:24 pm to
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We decided to set up a meeting with Paige so Najya could express her concerns. She told Paige that her teachers often rewarded, in her words, the “problem” students for doing the littlest things right; meanwhile, the students who always did what they were supposed to went unrecognized.




100% chance this moron has pushed for "equitable discipline" at some point in her career.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:25 pm to
It's part of the school experience. Sports and dances aren't educational, either.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68886 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:30 pm to
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It's part of the school experience. Sports and dances aren't educational, either.


Black History Month is a waste of educational opportunity. There isn't enough to talk about to make it worth a full month for 13 straight years.

Here's more stupid crap from the author:

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Located in a wealthy, gentrified neighborhood, it shares space in its building with three lower-income, predominantly Black high schools.


She just described a school that isn't segregated.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2333 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:37 pm to
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I never felt like I was sacrificing sending my kids to these schools. I honestly feel like I got very lucky.


Wow, you really ARE a better person than me. I bet you are smarter, better looking, and smell nicer too.

First of all, if my kids are the top scoring in the class, they are in the wrong school. I want them surrounded by smarter people and have clawed and paid my way into some of the best in my city. I don't need them to know how to interact with people not like them. I need them to have well paying jobs so they can afford to send their own kids to school since they aren't gay, trans or black.

And secondly, you sound kind of pompous. Where are we in society that we've decided that black and brown people are intrinsically "good" by virtue of their skin??? Why are we bragging about minimizing exposure to white people?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
141452 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:48 pm to
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She knew her kid went to school at a zoo and kept her there anyway.
Plus, though she frames everything in terms of "Blackness," her own 1°/2° school experience was FAR more akin to her daughter's choice of HS than the underperforming institutions she'd send the girl to previously. NHJ was bused to white schools, based on the fact they were deemed better opportunities for her.

My question is, given NHJ's pull as a woke "journalist" and author, why was she dealing with unresponsive people at the school level.

What she is describing (her intellectually capable daughter being dumbed down institutionally) is an educational atrocity. She could have had district and/or state officials coming down on those school officials like piranha to a meal. But she didn't. Why? Because in the case of the teachers/administrators involved, she was more accepting of predictable and repetitive underperformance than she was of catalyzing consequential discipline for it. I'd suggest, had those horribly underperforming individuals been of different skin color, NHJ would have tattooed them with charges of racism. She'd have done the same with anyone defending them.

Yet, what is her inaction other than a defacto defense.

She is a nasty imbecile.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:49 pm to
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First of all, if my kids are the top scoring in the class, they are in the wrong school. I want them surrounded by smarter people and have clawed and paid my way into some of the best in my city.
Oh. I've never actually asked how they perform against the other kids in their classes. I hope teachers wouldn't be sharing student rankings in 2nd and 4th grade. But kudos to you for ensuring that your kids perform worse than the other kids in their classes, I guess.

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I don't need them to know how to interact with people not like them. I need them to have well paying jobs so they can afford to send their own kids to school since they aren't gay, trans or black.

And secondly, you sound kind of pompous. Where are we in society that we've decided that black and brown people are intrinsically "good" by virtue of their skin??? Why are we bragging about minimizing exposure to white people?



Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:56 pm to
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What she is describing (her intellectually capable daughter being dumbed down institutionally) is an educational atrocity.
And one that she observed first-hand and could easily identify!

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But she didn't. Why? Because in the case of the teachers/administrators involved, she was more accepting of predictable and repetitive underperformance than she was of catalyzing consequential discipline for it.
And this is all counter to what she claims was her motivation for sending her daughter to that school in the first place, which was to improve the school for all the students. She didn't use any of her privilege to improve the school on any level.

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She is a nasty imbecile.

I agree.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58063 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:48 pm to
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This is child neglect and abuse. Children services should remove her.

Yeah, take her child on the grounds that she sent her to a government run school. I’d love to see the legal arguments.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10850 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:10 pm to
Bitches like they need a good thump on the head.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:18 pm to
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I don't think she's deserving of credit for "walking the walk." She's a bad parent. She knew her kid went to school at a zoo and kept her there anyway. She gets no credit from me.


The correct answer.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1971 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:39 pm to
Did she really think there weren’t any smart kids in public schools?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
12110 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:46 pm to
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Stalin said no and his son died in a POW camp.

Damn - that's just cold.

It should be noted his son committed suicide by running at the electric fencing while begging the guards to shoot him, a request they obliged once he started frying.
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 5:49 pm
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
120 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:25 pm to
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I don't know. Why does it matter? What do you think having a black population of 40% vs 50% would prove?

Thank you now I have my answer to why you chose the language you used. You're saying non-white because your kids go to a school that is largely not black but happens to have a lot of other minorities. And this is problem for your argument because your entire argument rests on the idea that white people want to go to all white schools when the reality is most of us just want to avoid substantial numbers of blacks in schools for our kids. So what you're doing is you're playing games pretending that you've done something Noble when you've avoided black people just like the rest of us LOL
Posted by uggabugga
Maryland
Member since Aug 2024
6126 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:25 pm to
This was Bozo 8 years ago

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I guess she found out.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:08 pm to
Idk how accurate this is but google’s AI put the demographics at
Black / African American: ~44.6% to 45%
Hispanic / Latino: ~30.7%
White: ~20.2%
Two or More Races: ~4%
Asian / Pacific Islander: ~0.5%
American Indian / Alaska Native: ~0.1%

I’m still not sure what you think this proves.
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because your entire argument rests on the idea that white people want to go to all white schools when the reality is most of us just want to avoid substantial numbers of blacks in schools for our kids
my entire argument is that kids can get a good education even alongside mostly black and brown kids. A school having a large population of black and brown kids doesn’t automatically mean it’s a bad school. That’s my whole argument.
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So what you're doing is you're playing games pretending that you've done something Noble when you've avoided black people just like the rest of us LOL

i didn’t do anything noble. I picked the best school for my kids to attend and they are thriving there. They are involved in tons of activities and have circles of friends all over the city of all demographics through sports, music, catechism, and various camps. I’m not avoiding any race. I live in a predominately black city.
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