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re: Witnesses outside school begged officers to go inside while shooting going on

Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:14 am to
quote:

It’s hard to tell exactly what happened.


It sure as hell is because the government/cops aren't putting out any info. I'd bet half the farm that those in the know have had time to figure out exactly what happened.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:16 am to
I think they should get it right before putting it out. It’s literally only 48 hours later.

Corrected
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:36 am
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:17 am to
The schools security cameras will tell the truth and I hope that the officers don't lie and they tell the truth but it seems to me at this point there was a policy failure to pursue an active shooter.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15817 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:17 am to
quote:

like the other guy, if my kid was in there, the police would likely have had to shoot me to keep me out.


No doubt and I would have done the same. After doing some research it appears the active shooter plan was changed after Columbine and they should have immediately went in to the shooter and ended it.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:19 am to
I read somewhere that a tactical stack arrived and the first wave was three officers. There were a ton called to the scene. The reform was to not set perimeter in advance of engagement. I don’t know that didn’t happen.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:20 am to
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that they had to get a classroom KEY from another teacher before they could get into the classroom where the shooter was. Crazy.


That’s the same way they do drug raids. Find someone with a key.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4200 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:21 am to
Thin blue line
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:21 am to
quote:

No doubt and I would have done the same. After doing some research it appears the active shooter plan was changed after Columbine and they should have immediately went in to the shooter and ended it.


So you admit again you don't know what the frick you're talking about, but about 10 back and forths between us that started this was based on the fact that you're clueless. And you still run your cock holster.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15817 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:21 am to
The article I read said that procedure was first on scene head directly to the area of shooting and end it while backups set the perimeter. This obviously did not happen.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26629 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:22 am to
Has this been confirmed at all?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

It’s literally only 23 hours later.


Uh, it was two days ago.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20204 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I've read (I think NPR was the source but I read on twitter) that they had to get a classroom KEY from another teacher before they could get into the classroom where the shooter was. Crazy.


Oh horse shite! Most LEOs have shotguns in their vehicles. A shotgun is an excellent breaching weapon. Two shots and the hinges come off. Used good old fashion trench guns for that.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Has this been confirmed at all?


Has what been confirmed? A lot going on here.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15817 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:27 am to
And you think this was planned out by the federal government all the way down to state and local authorities. Carry on dumbass.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:33 am to
There were just under 30 people hiding in a small classroom and you want the police to shoot through a window. For God’s sake, wait a week to get a coherent timeline and then place blame.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:33 am to
Thanks. I can’t believe this was two days ago.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26629 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:33 am to
Your OP.

Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:35 am to
quote:

So you are blaming the Police?


I'm blaming the police for being cowards and staying outside. Seems like a pretty reasonable blame, wouldn't you say?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127387 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Multiple articles stated he engaged with officers before entering the school. Then he entered and they did not pursue. And they let him sit in there for an hour at least before a BP officer went in and killed him.

They could have gone in immediately and engaged him and they didn't.
Son of a
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Your OP.


Well it's eyewitness accounts so I'm not sure how you confirm that when no media was on hand at the time and the police are being tight-lipped about details but I lean towards believing the eyewitnesses.
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