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re: With Biden most likely not running for office, what is their reason for holding back?

Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:51 am to
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:51 am to
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really, really wish I was wrong but that's almost certainly the plan and most of you can't wait to fall into the trap.



When none of this even remotely happens will you say you were wrong or that people like you bringing it to light prevented it?


I would really, really like to be wrong but logic dictates I'm not. Democrats don't play fair.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:58 am to
Uh, Jill is the one running for that office. Shes only using Joes pictures in the ads (see Fetterman)
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:04 am to
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What makes you think he isn't running for office?


His rapid decline in health.



The democrats ran FDR in 1944 despite him being on death's doorstep. The Republicans ran Reagan in '84 despite him starting to show signs of Alzheimers. Both parties do not care about the health of their candidate. They just care about their candidate being able to win. Besides the democrats are too invested in the diversity game to run Newsome. They know that if Biden is reelected he will not be able to finish his term and Kamala will become the first Madame President.


1944 was the height of WWII so changing Presidents wasn't a viable option so that's not a good example. Reagan still looked great in '84 and was only 73, it was only very late in his Presidency when he was Trump's age now that he started to show signs.

Trump's father died of Alzheimers btw and his 2 brothers have died of natural causes already at younger ages than he is now. Time always wins.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:10 am to
Biden won't be the Dem candidate. I've said it for months. The reason for holding back could be that Biden isn't willing to step back, forcing the Dems to maneuver around him. Also, could be they want little time as possible for Newsome to be on the national stage.
It will be sold off as Joes health problems or something will happen along those lines.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74044 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:15 am to
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lol


But he won his recall in a landslide

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Whitmer or Newsom beat Trump by double digits. 


:lol:
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 11:17 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40175 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:15 am to
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1944 was the height of WWII so changing Presidents wasn't a viable option so that's not a good example.


Really? It was only not a viable option for the democrats from an election standpoint. They knew that FDR would not make it through the end of the term and probably not the end of WW2 and that is why they replaced Henry A. Wallace who was VPOTUS in FDR's first 3 terms with Harry Truman. If it was about winning the war and not just about keeping the Presidency then there were plenty of people who could have stepped in and FDR's Secretary of State Cordell Hull.

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Reagan still looked great in '84 and was only 73, it was only very late in his Presidency when he was Trump's age now that he started to show signs.


Reagan looked great in '84 but aides did start noticing signs of memory problems. He did not really start showing signs until late '86 but he was showing them in '84 as well.
Posted by Trojans56
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
796 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:16 am to
Well my goofy fricking spouse said she’d vote for that POS again. I said are you kidding me? She said I don’t see why not. Then a huge argument ensued with me saying “ you’ve lost your fricking mind, frick you , frick you…..” almost packed my bags. Not sure how much longer I can take it. Been married for 36 years somehow.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:25 am to
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Logistically, this idea is almost impossible. They would not even be able to change the name on ballots after the convention, and it would be a total chaotic clusterF to try and nominate someone different at the convention or even elect "Biden" after he was dead and then try to get the electors to vote for a different consensus candidate.


True. But there is another way. Kamala Harris can announce that she's not staying on as V.P. Biden will choose Newsom as running mate.
Shortly after the election (assuming Biden-Newsom win) then Biden is removed (for health reasons).
or
Biden can stick with Harris for the election and then replace her right after they win. Name Newsom V.P. and then Biden gets 'ill.'
But the Dems are gonna have to give Harris a shite load of money to go along with this.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30089 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:35 am to
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With Biden most likely not running for office, what is their reason for holding back?
Announcing he's not and someone else will be running in his place?


because the democrat vote is assured even if hitler was on the ballot

they wait until very late and the opposition has to switch gears at the last minute and attack a different person. they will wait until 3-4 months before the election to announce biden is stepping down. then anyone they put in will have nothing bad said about them until a few weeks before the election
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24860 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:58 am to
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Announcing he's not and someone else will be running in his place?

He's running until he isn't.

But, if he's going to be replaced by Newsom it will be very late in the game. Newsom is already a very recognized national communis- err, "political" figure, and bringing him in very late would take away a lot of opportunities for the opposition to negatively expose him on a national level. Plus, the suburban Range Rover Karens will line up in droves to vote for Newsom no matter how much negative press they see on him.

It's all planned.

I truly believed that they've have already removed Biden to replace him with Harris, but I don't think anyone could fathom exactly how horrible Harris turned out. She did enough just by being "black" to get a VP offer from Biden, but I don't even think Harris herself understood how completely condescending, insufferable and just unintelligent she is.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
63144 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:04 pm to
If he withdraws after he secures the nomination early, the DNC picks the replacement and the ballot issue goes away.

If he does it too close to the election, Dems could still vote for Biden and then electors would be instructed who to cast their vote for.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:06 pm to

classic
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7586 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Dems rigged their last primary but this one won’t be as easy.

They don’t have the candidate that is corrupt or compromised enough to agree to risk everything to be the next usurper.
Why Kamala for VP when Gabbard was the better VP pick?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162237 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:15 pm to
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His decline in health is one reason.

His potential issues with Hunter and selling access is another.

Lastly he is unpopular. Almost as unpopular as Trump.


Yeah I don't think he's a viable candidate for them at this point

Especially after his Maui blunders

People won't forget that
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32301 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:15 pm to
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what is their reason for holding back?
They don't know what to do with Kamala
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63439 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Whitmer or Newsom beat Trump by double digits. A debate with Trump would be a freaking bloodbath because they are good at slinging BS and Trump would be down in the polls and have to accept whatever debate terms offered so he will get the Chris Wallace treatment again. Simply having Trump on the stage next to a younger fresher face is enough to doom him.


Newsome couldn't even outdebate Adam Corrolla. Trump would bully his soy arse of the stage. But if we're being honest, a debate isn't going to make any difference in polling. Leftists could put ChatGPT on the ballot, and they would all line up behind it to vote for it.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Especially after his Maui blunders

People won't forget that

Lol
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