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re: Will Trump pardon the ICE agent before leaving office if the Dems win the Prez.

Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:22 am to
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:22 am to
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Moving it to a federal court isn’t necessarily a good thing for Mr. Ross.


He can be federally pardoned.

Fauci, for example, was preemptively pardoned.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:25 am to
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State of limitations in MN is quite long and will outlast this administration. Moving it to a federal court isn’t necessarily a good thing for Mr. Ross.


He isn’t getting charged. If he was federal court would be a huge win. Dummy.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:32 am to
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I standby my statement that he will never stand trial in Minnesota state court. I actually don't think he will ever be charged.
That could be true for various reasons, just not the one you claimed.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:35 am to
I know. But you missed my point.

There’s a hypothetical scenario (dem admin, no federal pardon) that a case against him getting moved to a federal court would NOT be a good thing (for Mr Ross).
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:36 am to
He’s a federal employee. He will not even see a civil suit.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:38 am to
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If he was federal court would be a huge win.


TF even is this jibberish?
Posted by Jimmie the Geek
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
1164 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:39 am to
Off topic, but my fiancée’s Ex is representing himself in family court during their divorce proceeding and seems to be using Chat GPT or some other AI chat bot to prepare his case. All I can say is that it isn’t going very well for him, which is great because he is a douche. Stacking L’s left and right. Chat bots respond to questions as they are asked. So if you have a different view of the actual facts, because you are a narcissist, its responses will most likely be skewed. But watching it unfold is worthy of popcorn.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19486 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:40 am to
Why do you continuously dox the agent in your replies.
Your efforts are pretty transparent and disgusting.
I've seen a number of you lefties doing this in your replies....almost like it is coordinated.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 10:44 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 10:57 am to
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An ICE agent can temporarily detain a US citizen. Any argument to the contrary is one based upon complete ignorance.


An ICE agent can detain US citizens only for a FEDERAL crime committed in their presence.

The videos don't show Good violating any federal laws. Maybe she was (18 USC 111), but I would like to see some video evidence of that. FWIW, Agent Ross (who had been on the scene) didn't seem to have any reason to detain her BEFORE the guys in the Nissan arrive.

When we see her vehicle, it's blocking all of the bike lane and (maybe) one lane of the two way street. She doesn't appear to be blocking the street any more than does Agent Ross's SUV (to her right in the videos). Was she moving her vehicle back and forth across the whole of Portland Avenue?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:02 am to
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TF even is this jibberish?


Not quite the legal scholar are you?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:07 am to
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Why do you continuously dox the agent in your replies.
Your efforts are pretty transparent and disgusting.
I've seen a number of you lefties doing this in your replies....almost like it is coordinated.


I'm not doxxing anyone. In fact, I refrained from using his name until it was widely circulated. Now, it's just a time-saver.

Secretary Noem is the one who led reporters to figuring out who he was by announcing his specific previous wounds.

And frick you for continually calling me a Leftie. I just don't think it serves any good purpose to lie about the facts of this case.

So, I will ask you...was Secretary Noem telling the truth about Good attacking ICE agents (plural) who were digging a vehicle out of the snow?
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
837 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:09 am to
Is it bad that I did a fist pump and Ric Flair whooo when I found out it was a white woman
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:10 am to
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An ICE agent can detain US citizens only for a FEDERAL crime committed in their presence.


And? As I correctly stated: An ICE agent can detain a US citizen.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8778 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:10 am to
Nope. Perfectly normal response as long as you love this country and don’t want to see it fail.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:11 am to
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just don't think it serves any good purpose to lie about the facts of this case.


Agreed. So we can agree the shooting was justified.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39859 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:14 am to
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Will Trump pardon the ICE agent before leaving office if the Dems win the Prez.
He hasn't even pardoned Chauvin yet.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:14 am to
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He hasn't even pardoned Chauvin yet.


I hope you’re joking. You know he doesn’t have the power to to pardon Chauvin, right? Right?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:20 am to
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Agreed. So we can agree the shooting was justified.


Based on a rational reading of the law and facts almost certainly it was justified.

I also thought Derek Chauvin and Donald Trump were innocent. You never know what will happen in a Minnesota court, with a Minnesota judge, prosecutor, and jury.

As for removal to federal court, I don't think that's a slam dunk...and, of course, that would still involve a Minnesota jury and, probably, a Democrat-appointed judge.


Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1865 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:40 am to
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I hope you’re joking. You know he doesn’t have the power to to pardon Chauvin, right? Right?


Chauvin plead guilty to Federal Civil Rights charges.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9549 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 11:43 am to
BS

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