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re: Will the national media descend on Baton Rouge to make st George a racial issue?
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:20 pm to Boy_of_wonder75
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:20 pm to Boy_of_wonder75
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It is a racial issue.
There are black people in St George. It's mostly a school issue. Would you want to send your kid to a BR public school? The magnets are kind of an exception but what do you do if you have a good kid that's a C student?
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:28 pm to 3nOut
Pretty good summary.
I live In the BR City Limits. I can see why St.G wants to leave but selfishly I don’t want them to, bc I’ll be paying higher property taxes. Sharon Weston Broome is so awful, and has done nothing whatsoever that is positive for the City.
So long as StG they can still vote on the Mayor President so we can get rid of this woman, I’m kind of ok with it.
It does make me chuckle when my white friends from BR say they send their kids to public school like they’re so down with the struggle. They all send them to BR High, which is a magnet school full of other white kids.
Come talk to me when your kid is at Istrouma.
I live In the BR City Limits. I can see why St.G wants to leave but selfishly I don’t want them to, bc I’ll be paying higher property taxes. Sharon Weston Broome is so awful, and has done nothing whatsoever that is positive for the City.
So long as StG they can still vote on the Mayor President so we can get rid of this woman, I’m kind of ok with it.
It does make me chuckle when my white friends from BR say they send their kids to public school like they’re so down with the struggle. They all send them to BR High, which is a magnet school full of other white kids.
Come talk to me when your kid is at Istrouma.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:28 pm to 3nOut
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From another out of towner that’s studied it a bit, SG is an unincorporated area that is a part of EBR parish. They get Parish services but not city of BR services. Since the cities’ and parish governments intermingle in LA, the city of BR gets to have a lot of say where the money goes.
As the current mayor and a lot of leadership is democrat and minority, they tend to spend money in poorer areas for projects that don’t benefit the entire parish. SG doesn’t get new roads, schools, etc. but other “needy” areas do get new schools community centers, grocery stores in food deserts.
They want to stop sending money to the parish/city and have their tax dollars stay in SG.
How did I do guys?
You forgot the education element of this.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:34 pm to Boy_of_wonder75
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It is a racial issue.
Exactly. The people trying to stop it are racists.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:34 pm to West Palm Tiger561
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Can someone briefly explain this St. George situation for an out of towner.
In the 1980’s, a federal court ordered a radical desegregation order that forced public school students to be bussed to the opposite side of town to go to school. Students could no longer go to the school near where they lived. Predictably, this triggered massive middle class exodus from the school system and the parish as a whole as those with means began sending their kids to private schools and those with slightly less means moved to Ascension and Livingston parishes. Baton Rouge’s public school system went from being one of the best in the state to one of the worst.
Fast forward to the 2000’s, the forced bussing deseg order is partially lifted, allowing for a return to some form of neighborhood schooling. Over the previous 20 years, massive population growth had occurred on the southeast side of EBR parish, but those neighborhoods had never been incorporated into the city of Baton Rouge for two reasons:
1. Federal voting rights act prohibits annexation of new areas into a city if doing so would dilute “minority” voting power (even if “minorities” are the majority). The Southeast side is overwhelmingly white and middle class.
2. The city and parish moved to a merged form of government where there was one “metro” counsel rather than a city counsel and a parish counsel and the mayor/parish president is elected parish wide. Parks, libraries, schools, and public works are all managed by the parish with police and fire protection provided by the city.
This arrangement made sense because once Scotlandville (a minority majority town north of the city where the airport and Southern University is located) merged with Baton Rouge, there was only one incorporated area in the parish. However, Baker wanted to be their own city and incorporated nearly immediately afterwards and managed to, by incorporating, get their own Baker School District. This wasn’t fought against too hard because Baker is majority black.
So, when that deseg order was lifted in the 2000’s, the southeast side of the parish. demanded new schools be built so their children wouldn’t have to be bussed as far away to go to school. They were told to pound sand by the school board.
The area of Zachary responded by incorporating and forming its own school district on the north side. It’s schools are now among the best in the state. Central followed a few years later by voting to incorporate and create their own school district, which despite heavy opposition, managed to happen. Central High, as a result, went from being a D rated school to one of the best high schools in the state.
The southeast side of the parish then tried to form an independent school district, but were told no, that they had to incorporate to do that. They then tried to incorporate all of the unincorporated areas on the southeast side of the parish, but between the race-baiting of the media and Baton Rouge government, a massive smear campaign, targeting of petition signers, and major shenanigans in the vetting process of the petition, it was denied a chance to make incorporating go to a ballot initiative. As a response, the city gerrymandered some boundaries to avoid incorporating any new people, but took control of several major businesses including the hospitals and most of the Mall of Louisiana as a way to starve any newly formed city of sales tax revenue.
The St. George supporters then proposed an olive branch. They would drop their support for incorporation and forming a new school district if the school board agreed to build a new high school and a few new primary and middle schools on that side of the parish. Once again, they were told to pound sand.
After waiting the requisite time, the St. George supporters circulated a new petition to incorporate, but with more refined boundaries and a smaller footprint to make the signature threshold for the petition more obtainable. They purposely excluded many black neighborhoods on the southeast side of town as well as many large apartment complexes. Despite more calls of racism and personal threats to petition signers, this second attempt was successful at getting St. George on the ballot. While some shenanigans managed to delay the vote from the spring to the fall, it will be up for popular vote in the St. George area this fall. If successful, St. George will then be able to start the next fight to form their own school district.
The reason BR is fighting incorporation so strongly is that sales taxes collected in the unincorporated areas are, for some crazy reason, being put into the city’s general fund which is used to fund police, fire, etc. So, despite them being taxed for these services, they’re not being provided them. Basically, the unincorporated areas are being used as a tax colony by the city while being passed over for improvements to schools and infrastructure because f$&k whitey. If the St. George revenue starts flowing into a St. George city general fund instead of to Baton Rouge’s city fund, the ponzi scheme will collapse and the city government will be forced to cut spending dramatically. There’s all kinds of duplication of services going on in the city with these “rec centers” in poor neighborhoods that perform all of the same services as the parks, but are owned by the city, funded by the city, and managed by family members of counsel members. They’re used as a jobs, money-laundering, and vote-buying program. The corrupt city government is facing serious repercussions for their incompetence.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:41 pm to udtiger
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You forgot the education element of this.
Desegregation or current schools situation?
SG doesn’t have any disclaimers not allowing minorities that I know of.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:45 pm to fallguy_1978
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here are black people in St George.
You are correct, but so is he. It became a racial issue the minute SWB steeped into office.
She's not as fair and open minded as Kip or any other rational human, she's a white hating loud mouth who got put in charge of local politics well over her head.
She wants divisiveness, ST George can be her crowning legacy.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:49 pm to RonLaFlamme
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PS - for the record, I'm in favor of people being able to organize the way they want and if I lived in St. George, I would vote in favor. But the way you phrased this - good Lord.
I have pretty strong racial (not necessarily racist) beliefs and even I cringed at his post.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:53 pm to Wednesday
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Pretty good summary.
I live In the BR City Limits. I can see why St.G wants to leave but selfishly I don’t want them to, bc I’ll be paying higher property taxes. Sharon Weston Broome is so awful, and has done nothing whatsoever that is positive for the City.
So long as StG they can still vote on the Mayor President so we can get rid of this woman, I’m kind of ok with it.
It does make me chuckle when my white friends from BR say they send their kids to public school like they’re so down with the struggle. They all send them to BR High, which is a magnet school full of other white kids.
Come talk to me when your kid is at Istrouma.
Your post is all truth.
My baby girl just turned 5, I wasn't waiting for the vote or taking a chance on the verdict, so we moved.
No way I'm sending my little girl to a BR public school or allowing her to grow up in what BR is divulging into.
Once local politicians become racially agenda driven minority controlled democrats the end result is inevitable.
Granted we moved to a place on False River & the dumb libs have overpopulated and taken control of local politics here too, and I still send my little one to the Catholic school, small towns aren't as rotten as bigger city. Plus we live on the peaceful island side, it's as near paradise as you'll find this close to BR. (and you wont find the politicians here advocating for pieces of shite like Alturd Sterling, creating more disruption and division.)
Posted on 9/22/19 at 2:11 pm to umop_apisdn
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the dumb libs have overpopulated and taken control of local politics here too
This is by design. Liberals have no boundaries. While the rest of the world was working they’ve snuck their way into every nook & cranny of politics. Idiocracy was a prophecy.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 2:18 pm to NPComb
I’m a magnet school parent ( BRMHS) and I favor St George.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 2:26 pm to 3nOut
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Desegregation or current schools situation?
SG doesn’t have any disclaimers not allowing minorities that I know of.
That the initial impetus for the effort was to get an independent school district within EBR (previous legislative efforts had been defeated and proponents were told - form your own city).
Posted on 9/22/19 at 2:32 pm to Lsupimp
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I’m a magnet school parent ( BRMHS) and I favor St George.
I do have some sympathy for magnet school parents that live in St George. They are a small minority though so I don't think the effort should be stopped just for them. They should have years to make adjustments too as the new school system would take some time.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 3:21 pm to udtiger
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That the initial impetus for the effort was to get an independent school district within EBR (previous legislative efforts had been defeated and proponents were told - form your own city
Gotcha. I didn’t expound on the newly formed school district enough when I just said “schools”
But I’ve never even been to BR so my research is solely from TD and stalking Together Baton Rouge people’s account. MM and KB seem like really unpleasant people to be around.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 4:20 pm to Lsupimp
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I’m a magnet school parent ( BRMHS) and I favor St George.
May I ask you why?
I’m on your side, but curious about your line of thinking.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 4:28 pm to RonLaFlamme
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Nope, not racist at all lol
i should add that all the methheaded trash in livingston parish can kick rocks too (pun intended).
we need to stop enabling deviant behavior as a society.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:03 pm to doubleb
Same reason you and many others would. Because we are principled and ethical people. There really is no choice.
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:22 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Yeah, white parents don’t want their kids going to school with black kids. That’s pretty much it.
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