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re: Why Ron DeSantis’ 'silence' on Ukrainian president’s speech speaks volumes
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:42 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:42 am to cajunangelle
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One of those critics is Jonathan V. Last, a Never Trump conservative and a columnist for the conservative website The Bulwark. , In his scathing December 22 column Last argues that DeSantis’ response — or lack thereof — to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s December 21 visit to the United States speaks volumes about the Florida governor’s priorities and underscores his lack of substance.
The Zelensky cult is hella mad...
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:47 am to Cobra Tate
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What did Trump say
That they should come to terms already and that this would never have happened under him
I believe the Ukraine/Russia conflict never happens if Trump is president…..because the Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle doesn’t happen either under a Trump presidency.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:47 am to cajunangelle
Well come to find out Ukraine is nothing but a money laundering scheme stealing money from American people giving it to politicians across the world
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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speaks volumes about the Florida governor’s priorities
Maybe the governor of Florida's priorities are Florida instead of being bullied into taking a side on every damn thing ever
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In his scathing December 22 column Last argues that DeSantis’ response — or lack thereof — to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s December 21 visit to the United States speaks volumes about the Florida governor’s priorities and underscores his lack of substance.
Ukraine is Mitch and the GOPe's shitshow. They have been all too eager to make common cause with Biden and Democrats on this issue. DeSantis isn't going to wade into it. He knows the MAGA base is pissed off.
Also, a lot could change with respect to Ukraine so best to wait and see how things play out.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:51 am to GumboPot
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I'm on vacation but checking in every once and awhile.
This is an interesting post however. DeSantis is getting attacked from DC monied interest here. They are mad he is not outwardly falling in line with Uniparty support for Ukraine spending. He's not receiving fire from MAGA on this issue.
That “criticism” seemed fake to me. Labeling Desantis as a MAGA candidate is suspicious. I think it was faux criticism to give Desantis a separation from the GOPe which is really his only weakness.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:52 am to Bass Tiger
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I believe the Ukraine/Russia conflict never happens if Trump is president…
the Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle doesn’t happen either under a Trump presidency.
I agree with this. I'm critical of Trump's otherwise GOPe record, but on foreign policy he was great.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:52 am to 14&Counting
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Also, a lot could change with respect to Ukraine so best to wait and see how things play out.
That does absolutely nothing because we will continue paying all the while.
I don't give a shite who DeSantis supports in this war as long as the American taxpayer is his top priority.
Right now, the taxpayer is being shite on for the cult of Zelensky.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:53 am to Bass Tiger
quote:Exactly. Biden goaded Putin into war by announcing
I believe the Ukraine/Russia conflict never happens if Trump is president…..because the Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle doesn’t happen either under a Trump presidency.
RUSSIA WILL INVADE then Russia didn't.
Then Biden said
any day now Russia will invade-just you mother frickin wait you'll see.
Then it leaked through trash WaPo or the Axios or NYTimes that Biden's trashy admin had the IC tell Putin that Biden was announcing Ukraine joining NATO.
Then Putin finally invaded. Giving Biden and the Big E's a new boogie man and money laundering scheme w/ big payoffs to the MIC.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The Zelensky cult is hella mad..
Don’t take the bait.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:54 am to cajunangelle
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Yes, it is a MSN/MSM hit piece on Ron DeSantis.
Cool. You couldn't copy a CNN hit piece or is Gumbopot doing that right now?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:55 am to Fun Bunch
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It has nothing to do with his governance of the State of Florida, and he is not currently a Presidential Candidate, so he really shouldn't have anything to say on it.
All of this.
In a day and age when seemingly EVERYONE wants me to know their opinion about something, it's nice to see someone show some restraint for once.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:58 am to cajunangelle
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Exactly. Biden goaded Putin into war by announcing
RUSSIA WILL INVADE then Russia didn't.
Then Biden said
any day now Russia will invade-just you mother frickin wait you'll see.
Then it leaked through trash WaPo or the Axios or NYTimes that Biden's trashy admin had the IC tell Putin that Biden was announcing Ukraine joining NATO.
Do you have a citation for the bolded part?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Right now, the taxpayer is being shite on for the cult of Zelensky.
I don't disagree with you.
What I am saying is that the shitshow that is Ukraine is principally of Biden and Mitch's making. DeSantis had no say in the decisions that have been made so why would he put himself out there? I think his silence clearly indicates he knows it's a shitshow....otherwise he would be proclaiming it from the rooftops like the other GOPe Neo-cons who think Zelensky is a freedom fighter and Ukraine is a noble cause. Also - Ukraine remains a volatile situation and there are a lot of ways this could go so its better to watch developments than box yourself in.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:06 pm to moneyg
quote:Ah ha the olde yee double karate intel take..
That “criticism” seemed fake to me. Labeling Desantis as a MAGA candidate is suspicious. I think it was faux criticism to give Desantis a separation from the GOPe which is really his only weakness.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:07 pm to Powerman
It was all over the news at the time. So you look it up.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:10 pm to moneyg
Christina Pushaw did a lot of Ukraine deletions.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:54 pm to Fun Bunch
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Federally. He cannot do a thing about it.
He can openly blast the Biden Administration for it
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:55 pm to GumboPot
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DeSantis has to ride the fence on this issue. The fence that separates MAGA and the Uniparty. He needs both to win.
He can't win the primary without MAGA and he won't get it.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:20 pm to cajunangelle
I want Trump in 2024. And if not Trump, a non-politician outsider like Trump.
Ron DeSantis is NOT like Trump.
Ron DeSantis is NOT like Trump.
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