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re: Why is there more & more chatter of people in remission getting cancer after the vaccine?

Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:28 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:28 am to
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We go back to Vanderbilt next month for 3 month check.


I knew something was up. My energy levels dropped and I was losing muscle mass. My appointments had been stretched from 3 months, to 6 months then a year. My annual was this past week, and I am doing a bunch of tests now getting ready for treatment, it appears.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65538 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:29 am to
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Because the CCP is pushing anti-vax propaganda, and confirmation bias causes people to amplify it.


muh China!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:30 am to
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Why is there more & more chatter of people in remission getting cancer after the vaccine?

Because people push wild theories that they know are not true, and it makes other not so smart folks become paranoid and think EVERYTHING is because of the vaccine.

Kinda like when you posted about 3 world leaders who all died and tried to link it to them being assassinated due to the vaccine. That's a good example, perfect really.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65538 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:34 am to
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Because people push wild theories that they know are not true, and it makes other not so smart folks become paranoid and think EVERYTHING is because of the vaccine.


Are you one of those that believes the vaccines are completely safe and everything negative about them is fake news?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:37 am to
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When the vaccine relies on the host to produce the antigen you will have mixed results. People will produce antigens at varying numbers for various reasons.

Vaccine failures or breakthrough infections are probably people that did not produce enough antigen. Vaccine side effects like micro clots and organ damage probably produced too much.

With traditional vaccines you receive a known number of antigens for everyone.





My god.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30912 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:39 am to
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How would you feel if you found out we had safe drugs already on the market that could prevent and/or cure Covid but they were politicized because OMB and for profits off of a new ineffective vaccine that might still kill you?
Yours is an opinion held by many, and I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but the vaccine is also a considered path to being virus free, too.
I'm saying, let people make their own decisions without all the social media mania going in both directions. Each person needs to study BOTH sides and draw their own conclusions.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179704 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:41 am to
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Are you one of those that believes the vaccines are completely safe and everything negative about them is fake news?


Shel is all in on the vaccine and anyone that questions it or the messaging from the CDC and Fauci is a moron.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179704 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:42 am to
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I knew something was up. My energy levels dropped and I was losing muscle mass. My appointments had been stretched from 3 months, to 6 months then a year. My annual was this past week, and I am doing a bunch of tests now getting ready for treatment, it appears.



Sorry to hear that, Roger. I knew you had been in remission for years.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7647 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:53 am to
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but the vaccine is also a considered path to being virus free, too.


No this is incorrect. You can still get and pass covid 19 even if you’re fully vaccinated.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30912 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 9:59 am to
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No this is incorrect. You can still get and pass covid 19 even if you’re fully vaccinated.

NO cure, vaccine or ANYTHING else is 100%. What is it about" a considered path to being virus free" that confused you?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86509 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:18 am to
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It’s the dumbest idea ever
This is the dumbest statement ever.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8679 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:28 am to
I really hope and pray that you have a good report, Roger.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8679 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:34 am to
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Sure would be nice if they stopped calling it “safe and effective” without data to show what effects the vaccine has 3-5 years down the road. Seems like they’re sort of assuming the “safe” part there.



They are also assuming the "effective" part, too. Just yesterday evening a very close and long time friend of mine died from Covid. She was also fully vaccinated and had been for six months. She was treated by current protocol which meant Remdesiver and vent. No ivermectin or Covid pack. I don't believe anything the CDC, NIH, WHO, or Fauci says anymore.
Posted by Bridget O
Kilgarvan
Member since Dec 2020
410 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:37 am to
Yes! I have two friends who got cancer within two weeks of getting their second shot. One was in remission, the other a new case. One even went back for the booster.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:39 am to
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NO cure, vaccine or ANYTHING else is 100%. What is it about" a considered path to being virus free" that confused you?

Ivermectin taken 1x/weekly has 100% success rate preventing Covid.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57978 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:39 am to
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It's hard to pin it down specifically to the vaccine.

However, this would make for a nice study after 3-5 years of data.

You know, when there is evidence, not assumptions, about the long term effects.

Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8679 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:45 am to
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how would you feel if there was no vaccine for her to have taken


Her decision was a "damned if you do and damned if you don't". And this is NOT a vaccine, btw. She only took it after constant urging from her oncologist. She's not an idiot when it comes to medical issues. She is an RN. Before she got the shot, we all here took great care with Covid avoidance protocols, but since this thing is also airborne, just like influenza, nothing is guaranteed. And to answer your question, if there was no vaccine, and there isn't, for her to have taken, I would be hoping and praying that a true vaccine would very soon be developed.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18832 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:51 am to
Fauci will say no.
Media will say no.

The right is answer is we will see after a few years of data.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26329 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:58 am to
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And this led you to believe it was caused by the vaccine? Not the two previous rounds of cancer?


Your are an arse and an idiot.

It is possible. That is all this thread is about. He never said he for certain knew the shot caused it.

It is possible to prove with statistics that the shot causes cancer (if it does) but it will never prove it in any one individual.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3778 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:58 am to
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Diagnosed cancer is very mature. Many, many people have cancer cells in their body for twenty years or more.


I think your statement is incorrect. I think everyone has some relatively small/manageable number of cancer cells in their body at all times. Their immune system finds them and gets rid of them. The disease of cancer occurs when your immune system can no longer eliminate them fast enough to prevent growth.

Anything that affects the immune system is going to have an effect on your body’s ability to remove cancer cells. Therefore, it is plausible to believe that the vaccine is affecting this response in some people. The question is:

does the vaccine’s benefits outweigh its negatives?

I don’t think we really know that yet and I’m not confident the CDC actually wants to know.
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