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Why is there a need to get a college degree in a low paying field?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:51 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:51 am
A degree is a piece of paper that tells an employer that you have the determination and skill set to graduate from college and the potential to be a good employee in your field of study.
Why would you pay (borrow) big bucks for that piece of paper if it does you no good when you graduate? If you are just fascinated by the subject matter, just log in and do free research online. There are plenty types of online websites where you can interact with subject matter experts, if learning is your objective.
I could learn most of what I learned at LSU on the internet, today.
Why would you pay (borrow) big bucks for that piece of paper if it does you no good when you graduate? If you are just fascinated by the subject matter, just log in and do free research online. There are plenty types of online websites where you can interact with subject matter experts, if learning is your objective.
I could learn most of what I learned at LSU on the internet, today.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:52 am to Jax-Tiger
Because:
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A degree is a piece of paper that tells an employer that you have the determination and skill set to graduate from college
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:53 am to Jax-Tiger
Because a HS diploma is too watered down today and you aren’t allowed to do aptitude tests as an employment condition without significant legal clearance.
If someone has done enough to get a 4 year degree in underwater basket weaving, it is proof enough they can show up somewhere on time and follow directions at a minimum level.
If someone has done enough to get a 4 year degree in underwater basket weaving, it is proof enough they can show up somewhere on time and follow directions at a minimum level.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:53 am to Jax-Tiger
Going to liberal arts U for $75,000 per year in debt is
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:00 am to Jax-Tiger
I'm a cop with a Criminal Justice degree, but it's virtually worthless. My agency, where patrolmen top out at over $100K in 5 years, only requires 30 hours. My Chief says "I just want to know 2 things....is the applicant a good person and are they teachable?" The 30 hours just says that the applicant is capable of sitting in a classroom and absorbing the material. Between the academy, field training, and continuing education, everything is learned on the job.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:05 am to Jax-Tiger
My favorite was the Doctorate of Library Science!!!
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:07 am to Jax-Tiger
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Why is there a need to get a college degree in a low paying field?
There isn't a need. We have generated the need and created a false narrative that everyone needs to go to college.... In turn we have watered down college degrees to the point that they are almost meaningless unless they are some type of professional degree...
Most kids would be better suited for trade school...
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:14 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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A degree is a piece of paper that tells an employer that you have the determination and skill set to graduate from college
The Left designed their strategy toward a total Government allocation of the GNP. I.e., that their goal is to have all people's earnings allocated via the 'income equity' criteria. They encouraged the Colleges to become 'diploma mills' in order to establish the 'legitimate' qualifications for extraordinary pay government hires. As our society goes down, the demand to address and 'fix' the societal dysfunction becomes a legit issue. And the wave of 'qualified' SJWs becomes the fix.
The naive' Right has been blindsided, while they went along to get along, and got rich in the process. Now it's really too late as Government has passed the point of no return. And assuming that we don't implode and remain a high tech viable civilization it is inevitable that massive unemployment due to Robotics, AI, etc. will necessitate some form of Government (re)distribution fo the GNP anyway.
I hope and pray that the acquisition of Knowledge and the wise application of High Tech can truly free a lot of good, responsible, spiritual folk who now spend the large part of their lives in monotonous repetition seeking 'prosperity'. JMO.
They say that "an idle mind is the devil's workshop"; that I believe. The critical factor is Vision, as such relates to 'idle'. "Where there is no vision, my people die". Spot on. The Truth (Jesus) is coming.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:14 am to Jax-Tiger
What do you call an Engineer pursuing a Graduates Degree?
Unemployable
Unemployable
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:17 am to teke184
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Because a HS diploma is too watered down today and you aren’t allowed to do aptitude tests as an employment condition without significant legal clearance.
If someone has done enough to get a 4 year degree in underwater basket weaving, it is proof enough they can show up somewhere on time and follow directions at a minimum level.
Is there a market for people with basket weaving degrees? Or are we talking about generic professional jobs like fast food or retail positions? Why not get a degree in something where there is a demand and study basket weaving on the side? Especially if you end up in heavy debt.
If I'm looking for an assistant manager for my McDonald's store or GAP store, I'd go with the applicant who has a business degree, not the basket weaver.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:21 am to Jax-Tiger
You don't need a college degree to get a job in welding.
And that isn't low-paying; in fact it pays way more than the blue-haired barista with the gender studies degree makes.
And that isn't low-paying; in fact it pays way more than the blue-haired barista with the gender studies degree makes.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:24 am to Jax-Tiger
A degree is just a membership card. Always has been.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:25 am to Jax-Tiger
College is nothing more than a delay in the workforce. Without college the unemployment rate skyrockets .
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:28 am to Quidam65
Buddy of mine "Big Earl" (RIP) was a goofball as a teenager. I went to college and grad school, he did neither and became a welder.
By the time I finished my Master's and started my career ($60-70K) Big E was certified diver and underwater welder out of Leeville, making twice that plus change.
(Miss you, Big man.)
By the time I finished my Master's and started my career ($60-70K) Big E was certified diver and underwater welder out of Leeville, making twice that plus change.
(Miss you, Big man.)
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:33 am to Jax-Tiger
Well back in the day going to college gave you pretty good odds of landing a good job. Your area of study wasn't extremely important and fewer people went to college because it was more merit based. There were a lot more well paying jobs available because because women and "certain demographics" were not considered. So, college was actually a ticket to middle class or higher lifestyle. You could major in history, and get a job in sales for a company and do alright and raise a family.
Fast forward to present day, the people that grew up in that system instilled in their kids that going to college was the most important thing and it would lead to being successful. But, college stopped being merit based and literally anybody could get in and anybody could acquire loans for ay amount of money. And if you couldn't get into a good college, there were hundreds of cut rate colleges you could go to. The colleges cashed in. Women and certain demographics also joined the job pool.
So, you now have well over twice as many people looking for "high paying jobs". But everyone has a college degree and there is no way to differentiate.
Also, jobs have become less prestigious. I attribute this to women joining the workforce. Not that that is a bad thing. But, if you take a look around, all that has accomplished is it has forced each household to work twice as much to maintain the same level of status as before. And, it has also exacerbated the wealth gap, because working women still typically marry men that earn more or similar than what they do. To explain this more, You still see doctor men marrying teachers or having a stay at home wife. But, i doubt there are many doctor women that have married a plumber or barista. This has made a job roughly half as financially productive as it once was. And it is not as simply as o that is just a problem for "keeping up with the Jones'". Because in our free market, the cost of everything increases depending on what people will pay.
So, to answer you question, there is no need to get a college degree. Most people have been fleeced by the higher education system in America, and the federal government assisted them in doing it. You can obtain a nice, well paying job that provides a good work-life balance by getting a college degree. But now, it is not a guarantee. You have to also work hard or get lucky or make some additional moves to make it pay off.
Fast forward to present day, the people that grew up in that system instilled in their kids that going to college was the most important thing and it would lead to being successful. But, college stopped being merit based and literally anybody could get in and anybody could acquire loans for ay amount of money. And if you couldn't get into a good college, there were hundreds of cut rate colleges you could go to. The colleges cashed in. Women and certain demographics also joined the job pool.
So, you now have well over twice as many people looking for "high paying jobs". But everyone has a college degree and there is no way to differentiate.
Also, jobs have become less prestigious. I attribute this to women joining the workforce. Not that that is a bad thing. But, if you take a look around, all that has accomplished is it has forced each household to work twice as much to maintain the same level of status as before. And, it has also exacerbated the wealth gap, because working women still typically marry men that earn more or similar than what they do. To explain this more, You still see doctor men marrying teachers or having a stay at home wife. But, i doubt there are many doctor women that have married a plumber or barista. This has made a job roughly half as financially productive as it once was. And it is not as simply as o that is just a problem for "keeping up with the Jones'". Because in our free market, the cost of everything increases depending on what people will pay.
So, to answer you question, there is no need to get a college degree. Most people have been fleeced by the higher education system in America, and the federal government assisted them in doing it. You can obtain a nice, well paying job that provides a good work-life balance by getting a college degree. But now, it is not a guarantee. You have to also work hard or get lucky or make some additional moves to make it pay off.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:33 am to jb4
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Going to liberal arts U for $75,000 per year in debt is INSANE
Daughter (no pics) went to LSU with full TOPS. No debt. Got a great job in Dallas making great money and is now totally self-sufficient at 24.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:40 am to Jax-Tiger
I had a good friend who graduated with a PhD in Economics from U. of Chicago. He said the most elite students on campus were Ph.D. in Math. They were way ahead of econ, physics or medicine. They only associated with each other because no one could understand what the hell they were talking about.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:00 am to Jax-Tiger
Basket-weaving is a cover-all for any degree which can’t be used to get a job in that field.
For example, a photography degree is less than worthless because it is a field where you don’t need a degree to break in, you need to have skills and hang a shingle.
A lot of liberal arts degrees are like this if you don’t have a teaching certificate to go with it. A history degree may help get you into law school but that degree on its own isn’t helping you with much.
For example, a photography degree is less than worthless because it is a field where you don’t need a degree to break in, you need to have skills and hang a shingle.
A lot of liberal arts degrees are like this if you don’t have a teaching certificate to go with it. A history degree may help get you into law school but that degree on its own isn’t helping you with much.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:02 am to Zach
To my knowledge, Z, Numbers are not subjective. 'Statistics' may be manipulated but when it comes down to pure Math there is no room for wiggle. Now as to where Numbers and Quantum Theory collide, waaayyy out of my sphere of comprehension.
Rory took home $18 million at the Fed Ex yesterday. You need to step up your game, for your next life.
Rory took home $18 million at the Fed Ex yesterday. You need to step up your game, for your next life.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:06 am to Jax-Tiger
Its credentialism. The way to make average people feel special and limit barriers to entry.
OJT > Degree for most.
OJT > Degree for most.
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