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re: Why is ‘limited range’ for EV’s presented as ‘range anxiety’?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:02 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:02 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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. It won't last forever.
When I was a kid I was told that we would reach peak oil in 1998 and supplies would dwindle after that.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:03 pm to weagle1999
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Nice turn to reframe limitations of the vehicle as a mental problem
for the consumer.
I’ll give you a reason that just happened today. My EV was at ten percent power. My wife planned to use it for a 10 mile round trip to the mall - a trip that would require no more than 3% of battery capacity. If it was an ICE vehicle she would have had no problem, but I had to charge it some to placate her.
It’s not irrational of her; it’s just that she has to make it home to charge, whereas she can fill an ICE vehicle anywhere. Range anxiety absolutely cuts into the usable range of an EV.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:05 pm to omegaman66
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Range anxiety has little to do with range. It has everything to do with limited (compared to gas) places to recharge. This has always been ONE of the difficulties with replacing gasoline with electricity, hydrogen or any other form of car power. This issue is slowly going away as more and more charging stations pop up across the country.
And that it takes most of an hour of sitting around before you have enough charge to go anywhere.
BTW, do the batteries in these vehicles degrade over time
and hold less charge? Something EV believers rarely talk about.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:06 pm to omegaman66
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Adoption is coming fast. Look at the trends.
Wonder how this segment will fare now that tax subsidies are being eliminated
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:09 pm to weagle1999
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Wonder how this segment will fare now that tax subsidies are being eliminated
I don't claim to be a fortune teller but from what I have gathered the price of ev is very quickly headed to be cheaper than ICE vehicles.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:13 pm to wackatimesthree
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They chose words they thought would resonate with the maximum number of people and "anxiety" won out. And they were probably right about it being the best word to use.
This is so myopic.
Anyone who purchases a vehicle weighs all of the pros and cons of each vehicle. This is a very expensive purchase, and people like to consider all of their options and how it matches their lifestyle.
Why wouldn’t access to charging stations, whether at home or on the road, weigh heavily on a buyer’s decision.
You could use this “anxiety label” on every decision a person makes. It’s a misapplication of a psychology term. We seem to be in an era of over psycho-analyzing everything.
When I choose not to eat an ice cream cone, I have fatness anxiety.
When I decide not to build a swimming pool, I might have lawsuit anxiety, or inability to pay my bills anxiety.
When I buy a truck instead of a car, I have lack-of-usefulness anxiety.
This is definitely the work of a leftist mindset that feels the need to “problematize” the decision to not “save the planet”.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:17 pm to Jimbeaux
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And the amount of added time to a trip due the time it takes to charge.
I'd imagine a lot of families with 2 vehicles have one EV and one ice vehicle that they would use on road trips
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:18 pm to weagle1999
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And that it takes most of an hour of sitting around before you have enough charge to go anywhere.
As I stated these long charging time could go away. Currently yes.
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BTW, do the batteries in these vehicles degrade over time
and hold less charge? Something EV believers rarely talk about.
Currently yes. But they hype is that they can make batteries that will outlast the car itself.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:20 pm to omegaman66
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don't claim to be a fortune teller but from what I have gathered the price of ev is very quickly headed to be cheaper than ICE vehicles.
Great. No problem. I’d buy an EV if all the pros outweighed all the cons versus other products.
The moral preening needs to be quashed on EV’s. They won’t make a dent in the overall carbon footprint, if you happen to be overly concerned about such things.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:25 pm to weagle1999
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range anxiety
Nothing an SSRI script can't fix.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:26 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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It's an attitude thing. EVs could work here for normal driving.
no, it's a convenience thing.
plain and simple.
several times a year I make a 900+ mile drive.
my wife's car will get a hair over 500 miles per tank.
1 stop. gas and go. less than 20 minutes added to my trip.
and I can stop at literally any gas station along the way.
with EV, that's a minimum of 3 stops (more likely 4) and adds at least 2 hours to my already long trip.
and as of today, not all gas stations even have charging stations (I'm sure they will one day, but we're not there yet).
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:27 pm to Jimbeaux
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They won’t make a dent in the overall carbon footprint, if you happen to be overly concerned about such things.
I couldn't give a rats arse about carbon footprint because we are maxed out on the heating that CO2 can cause already.
I hated the 2035 mandate shite more than anyone.
I would love to drive a car without a carburetor or a radiator or a transmission, O2 sensors, catalytic converters etc.! I will not be an early adopter but I do have dreams. And if we can avoid ww3 the ev dreams will be realized very close to if not before 2035.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:29 pm to weagle1999
Range anxiety is different and I imagine it came from the consumer side. It basically accepts that the vehicle has a limitation but not being able to manage the stress of it. So driving habits can change, spend too much time or money charging, etc.
Charging anxiety is another related but separate thing. This is why people are spending thousands of dollars to install a 50 amp breaker with 6/3 copper so they can charge a car that only accepts 32 amps of AC current.
In reality, there is (at least) one EV auto maker that is very good at calculating range and has developed a pretty vast fast charging network that makes almost any interstate route possible.
Charging anxiety is another related but separate thing. This is why people are spending thousands of dollars to install a 50 amp breaker with 6/3 copper so they can charge a car that only accepts 32 amps of AC current.
In reality, there is (at least) one EV auto maker that is very good at calculating range and has developed a pretty vast fast charging network that makes almost any interstate route possible.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:30 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
A country the size of a state, does not represent your diluted observations. Seek another playground to throw sand in. The stupidity of using small countries versus one with over 320 million and the of the US…..is not clearly thought out. The distances between cities and states does not compare.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:31 pm to weagle1999
We gave the Biden Administration $30 Billion for charging stations that vaporized …. very, very few were ever delivered. It was a scam.
So don’t try to guilt me because I don’t trust EV to meet my needs for a long trip, or to tow my RV.
So don’t try to guilt me because I don’t trust EV to meet my needs for a long trip, or to tow my RV.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:37 pm to Clames
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There are 10 gas stations within several mile radius of where I work. The on-base gas station is the adjoining parking lot. There are zero public EV charging stations within 20 minutes. I have no range anxiety and my truck gets 14 mpg on average.
Your house probably has more than 10 outlets that you could plug into.
Lots of people are just stupid and don’t realize that an EV is not for everyone. If you have a long daily commute, or need to sit in your car a lot while it’s running, if you live in an apt complex with no access to charging or otherwise relying superchargers- probably not a great idea. But for trips around town or like 50 mile round trips, they are awesome. Having one as a second or third car can save a lot on gas and make save the time having to stop at gas stations less often.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:48 pm to Clames
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Not really, as even with more charging stations it's still a lengthy process to charge up the battery any way. There's no technologically feasible solution for EV's to match ICE vehicles in terms of refueling vs charging convenience. The math simply doesn't work in any EV's favor in terms of power delivery at the rate required.
Se this may be where you could argue the term comes from manufacturers.
The fact is, you don’t need to fill them up. The rate of charge diminishes as it gets closer to fully charged. And they will go until they hit 0%, so charging from under 10% to 60-70% at a supercharger really only takes 10-15 minutes tops. But that gives people anxiety because they feel they are constantly running low, because they are. But if you can get over that, because your needs wouldn’t require that much range and you know you can recharge at night, it can make sense.
It’s a similar concept as not having to fill up a glass of water all the way to the brim every time you are thirsty, as you have to throttle back the tap and makes it easier to spill.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:07 pm to bluedragon
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A country the size of a state, does not represent your diluted observations. Seek another playground to throw sand in. The stupidity of using small countries versus one with over 320 million and the of the US…..is not clearly thought out. The distances between cities and states does not compare.
You got me good dipshite.
If you get agitated by EV talk, you may be a dangerous aggressive person.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:25 pm to weagle1999
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‘range anxiety’
Comes before Short Range Fatigue.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:28 pm to omegaman66
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I couldn't give a rats arse about carbon footprint because we are maxed out on the heating that CO2 can cause already. I hated the 2035 mandate shite more than anyone. I would love to drive a car without a carburetor or a radiator or a transmission, O2 sensors, catalytic converters etc.! I will not be an early adopter but I do have dreams. And if we can avoid ww3 the ev dreams will be realized very close to if not before 2035.
I don’t follow the developments that closely. I hope you’re right, especially if we (collectively) can stop looking past the cons of EV’s.
Lots of issues to solve:
Environmental problems with battery manufacturing.
Dangers of battery fires from collisions, malfunctions, and flooding
Lack of capacity on the electric grid for so many EV’s, which will require more electrical plants and production and more robust delivery systems.
Disposal concerns and storage capacity/recycling methods for the used batteries.
Wear and tear on roads and bridges due to the added weight of the vehicles
The need for massive increases in recharging infrastructure.
The overall cost to society (government spending) and consumers to make these switches.
The lost opportunity costs for what could have been done with the money spent on a technology change on a societal level.
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