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re: Why is "Israel our greatest ally"?

Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:15 pm to
*double post*
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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:16 pm to
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Uh, there are plenty of other countries that have those values. Unlike Israel, they're also not ethnostates.


Name one in the Middle East.

And Israel is not an ethnostate. Anyone can be of any religion or ethnicity and live there if they want. Same cannot be said for other countries in the area.

This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 8:12 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:16 pm to
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I am just wondering why this phrase is repeated so often.


It's brainwashing.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:18 pm to
Nikki Haley actually said israel doesn’t need america, america needs israel. Let that sink in
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:19 pm to
They’re not, it’s just a way to keep Christian Trump supporters in line. The Gods chosen people is poorly understood in the US.,
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:20 pm to
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Nikki Haley actually said israel doesn’t need america, america needs israel. Let that sink in



She's at least on Ms. Lindsey's level of neocon.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:21 pm to
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I am just wondering why this phrase is repeated so often


Hmmm, who repeats it? The media? Joe Biden? Politicians who are getting money for it? I've never heard it IRL conversation. But then I've never heard 'It's a threat to democracy' in a real life conversation.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:24 pm to
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It has to do with our partnership in our intelligence services. They’re practically interchangeable.


This pretty much sums it up
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:29 pm to
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All the tribes being referenced are Israel


There’s a difference between the “tribes” of Israel in the Bible and the “nation” of Israel that was founded in 1948.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:31 pm to
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Why is "Israel our greatest ally"?

Because they need us so badly, it is presumed they would never dick us over.

But they dick us over all the time, so. . .
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Anyone can be of any religion or ethnicity and live there if they want. Same cannot be said for other countries in the area.

Definitely not Saudi Arabia that's for sure. When I was a kid I remember my mom dragging me in a hurry to the home of one of her church prayer group ladies. It was chaotic at the home, and the lady was crying like crazy. It was like someone had died. Anyway I was to young to understand while there so just hung out with other kids. On the way home I asked my mom what happened, and she said that the ladies son had been arrested in SA for holding a prayer group off base. She wasn't able to really tell me the "why," but later my dad sat us down and explained it.

Things may have changed, don't know,but thats my first taste of what moslims will do to prevent their beliefs from getting tested.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:42 pm to
I don’t think it’s “officially” referred to as that, but although it’s obviously taken on a strategic alliance in the geopolitical realm, I believe the historical foundation of the relationship was and still is based on shared “traditional” values. Specifically, “Western” values, small d democratic values, as well as the Judeo-Christian connection. All while they live in a pretty rough neighborhood that doesn’t exactly support any of that and in fact “fights” it in an array of ways.

No expertise in the area, just my appreciation of this broad topic.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:49 pm to
Muslims would be angry at you even if there was not an Israel.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:21 pm to
You can thank Evangelical churches for this. Somewhere along the way, Protestant Christianity in America went from Paul’s teachings (“There is no longer Jew or Greek…”), to near- worship of the Jewish state.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:38 pm to
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Name one in the Middle East.


You didn't specify that it had to be in the Middle East. Why does our greatest ally have to be in the Middle East?

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And Israel is not an F no state.


The frick it's not. Give me a break.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:39 pm to
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There’s a difference between the “tribes” of Israel in the Bible and the “nation” of Israel that was founded in 1948.




Not to religious nut jobs unfortunately.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:42 pm to
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Anyone can be of any religion or ethnicity and live there if they want.


I just had to post again to laugh at this. You're a tard.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:45 pm to
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I am just wondering why this phrase is repeated so ofte




Repeated by who? The UK would be our "greatest" ally imo and I'd imagine that sentiment is pretty widespread.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:45 pm to
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There would literally be no Muslim threat without Israel.
google Charles Martel & get back to me


And "and the shores of Tripoli".
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:49 pm to
Israel is not the US’ greatest ally. By far that would be Great Britain.
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