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re: Why exactly are some Conservatives Pro-Russia?

Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3771 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:19 am to
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I don't love China, but I seem to remember seeing something that a lot of people (especially diabetics) would die quickly without their medication from there. If we start mixing it up with them, that is going to be a real test of MAGA/America First. It will be interesting if this board goes neocon. I get criticized for posting a lot of material from independent media leftists, but it's because they are ideologically consistent on these things.


Your are correct about that, antibiotics and many other life-saving drug base-ingredients manufacture as well.

The whole idea is to re-shore our manufacturing so that this isn’t an issue when we do eventually clash with China to the degree where they would cut-off such production had we not.

I would prefer back in the United States, but I would pragmatically settle for anywhere in the western hemisphere under our control and protections.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86474 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:20 am to
I just find it crazy that 2014 happened and Russia still hosted the Winter Olympics and then the World Cup.

Then a few years pass and back to worst country ever let’s kick them out of everything.


Meanwhile we’ve invaded multiple countries. And Obama did it without approval from congress.








Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133732 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:21 am to
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It's also generally very homogenous.
You've obviously never been to Russia outside of Moscow or St. Petersburg.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2514 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:31 am to
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With specificity, what has Putin done to be crowned worst man on the planet?


Use your narrow mind to think of it this way.

If your kids give you a coffee mug that has #1 DAD written on it, can you really claim that you are the #1 DAD in the world?

I’m not sure any of these ratings are that official.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74586 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:40 am to
Conservatives from day one "Ukraine can't win a protracted war"
"Where is all these billions going"
" Russia has warned the west for years over and over again to keep our hands out of Ukraine "
" what profits will the MiC. make in all this"
"Why did the West scuttle a peace settlement in 2022?"
"Why has the State Dept not even tried diplomacy the last 3 years"

Asking all these questions makes one Putin lover. Just ask Tucker.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:46 am to
What he stated is still correct. Putin is resisting the globalists, in which globohomo is part of their agenda.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:49 am to
Yeah, we know Russia has mongoloid people, it’s a big country. Western Russia is still overwhelmingly Russian.
Posted by GerasimosNina
Member since Jan 2025
125 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:54 am to
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why these so-called conservatives love Putin so much


Putin is pro-family (supporting families having more kids/$ to moms to stay home) - Conservative value.

Putin is pro-Orthodox Christianity AND also honors efforts of others in his country who practice other faiths (respect) - Conservative value

Putin is anti LGBTQWTF- Conservative value

Putin is pro-national border integrity - Conservative value

Etc, etc, etc.

Will wait for you to tell me of his leftist, anti-God leanings…

Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5888 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:58 am to
So you don’t have an answer. Got it.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10505 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:03 am to
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You are no American if you are asking why did we invade Afghanistan.


lol ok
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57065 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:04 am to
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Grinder


1) you’re such an unbelievably simple minded person
2) Wanting taxpayer dollars out of a war that is not our responsibility does not = pro Russia, dipshit
3) Ukraine is not a part of NATO, we have no responsibility to them. Europe has a much bigger interest in Ukraine and should be footing the bill.
4) zelensky is a DNC puppet and a bit of a dictator. If we’re about freedom, we shouldn’t be funding a guy that is unpopular with his people and as a result, suspended elections. frick that little toad.
5) Ukraine has zero chance of defeating Russia. Giving them more money only prolongs this war and kills more people. You lefties don’t give a shite about human life so it makes sense that you want this war funded in perpetuity.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10505 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:06 am to
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Classic FAFO stuff.


Who runs Afghanistan now?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10505 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:09 am to
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Why did we invade Iraq would be a fair question.


Furthering my point. We sit here and judge Russia while ignoring what we have done. The people on this board that actually wish harm on Russian citizens are sick.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53678 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:09 am to
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there are millions of people on the planet right now that could make a very compelling case that Netanyahu is far worse than Putin.

hear hear!
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4713 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:11 am to
1. I'm anti-Globalism. Not Pro-Putin

2. I have no interest in the US being able to maintiain Bio Weapon Labs in a
non-NATO country because they would be illegal elsewhere.

This is about ending a war that Ukraine can not win. This is about ending a war that has caused destabilazation in Asia and having other Asian counterparts wondering how far the US is willing to push. The US has nothing to gain with this war.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100867 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:21 am to
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Russia is led by the worst man on the planet.


Not a Putin fan but there are much worse leaders than him.

Kim Jong Un for example
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7486 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:30 am to
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If someone, maybe even you, could explain me in detail what makes Putin such a bad guy then maybe I could reconsider my position.


Well, he does have a tendency to order people murdered on the reg. Even a partial listing would take up a couple of pages. I am not sure I share many values with murderous dictators.

Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53786 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:30 am to
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Vlad is fighting globohomo.


It's just very difficult for average, everyday Americans to admit to themselves that, until last month, their country, the USA, was spending trillions of dollars AND sending its people all over the world in order to achieve a very important Globalist Objective, and that Objective was to turn the entire Planet Earth into a Globo Homo Queer Paradise.

Cognitive dissonance is difficult to overcome. How does a middle aged American Patriot of the traditional sort overcome his innate belief in the "goodness" of his country when, in fact, his country has been hell-bent on spreading Queer Culture both at home and abroad? Most can't.

But, in fact, this is the Reality - the USA has been aggressively promoting evil and destructive policies both at home and abroad for years - many years. This must end. Trump's been at work for exactly one month to try to fix this mess.

Russia opposes Globo Homo. The USA is hell-bent on spreading Globo Homo. In that sense, Russia is good and the USA is bad.

I do admit that in many other important ways, Putin is evil. He did invade a country that had no plans to invade Russia.

Many Americans support Russia because they see Russia as a partner in the fight to save our sons from Globo Homo Queer Tranny Gay Boy American Culture. It's as simple as that.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2514 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:31 am to
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1) you’re such an unbelievably simple minded person 2) Wanting taxpayer dollars out of a war that is not our responsibility does not = pro Russia, dipshit 3) Ukraine is not a part of NATO, we have no responsibility to them. Europe has a much bigger interest in Ukraine and should be footing the bill. 4) zelensky is a DNC puppet and a bit of a dictator. If we’re about freedom, we shouldn’t be funding a guy that is unpopular with his people and as a result, suspended elections. frick that little toad. 5) Ukraine has zero chance of defeating Russia. Giving them more money only prolongs this war and kills more people. You lefties don’t give a shite about human life so it makes sense that you want this war funded in perpetuity.


I agree with all of this, other than the part where you call me a name in #2 and call me a lefty in #5.

For some reason you and many other posters on here seem to think I’m for giving money and support to Ukraine. I’m not.

Ukraine is an extremely corrupt country that doesn’t deserve any of our money.

Don’t be so closed minded toward questions about the shift towards being Pro-Russia by some people. Some posters on here have openly stated that they are pro-Russia and then post a list of reasons.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:32 am to
Not pro Russia.

Just against American interventionism.


Youre just not smart enough to know the difference.
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