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re: Why Elon Musk Ultimately Is A False Free-Speech Messiah…
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:25 am to CelticDog
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:25 am to CelticDog
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the oath keepers being guilty of seditious conspiracy is the required underlying crime for the manslaughter charge. patience Barry.
I am anxious. Just give me a little hope. Whose death will be the basis of the charge???
Also, will the recently un-hidden tweet of trumps from Jan 6 provide any defense? I hope not. This is the one time you actually finally have him!!
Oh and
on oath keepers being guilty is an element. Which element, specifically? Your refusal to answer will only prove you are a moron. This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:30 am
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:25 am to ksayetiger
Bama fan. Could be the same pic.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:27 am to squid_hunt
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Musk did say he was a free speech absolutist. If you want to argue context, that's your deal
You realize the ONLY context in which “free speech” is a thing is when it comes to the government, right? At least if you’re talking about 1st amendment free speech. Oh wait. You didn’t realize that did you? Oh my. I think we found the problem.
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I said that was silly and offered a hypothetical where I come to the free speech absolutists' house and insult their wife. Apparently, by their reaction, not as absolute as they pretend, which was my point.
No. You asked if Elon was a free speech absolutist and then immediately asked if banning Kanye was correct. What does one have to do with the other? Oh that’s right, you don’t grasp the concept of context.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:31 am to BayouBlitz
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Didn't you quit politics?
I didn't quit the Culture War. This is a cultural topic as it involves basic human rights - the right to speak one's mind without being censored by the government.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:31 am to Zap Rowsdower
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Hell, we learned you can’t do that in Pre-K.
THIS is the element that is missing in this 'post modern' (whatever the hell that means) culture
Bring me back the pre-modern culture where you learned how to get along with others in the process of getting your arse whipped by you parents, your eyes blackened by your classmates, or your advances on the 'weaker sex' being mocked by the objects of your desire. i
The LAW is for malicious physical harm and treachery - let the 'culture' take shape to better the common sense of the population.
We are now directing law enforcement to mold behavior, while we apply the LAW to enforce bullshite 'trigger prevention' -
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:31 am to CelticDog
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the oath keepers being guilty of seditious conspiracy
Congrats on supporting the criminalization of dissent.
Oath Keepers Verdict:
A Dangerous Escalation in Criminalizing Dissent
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:33 am to TrueTiger
That won’t phase Otto. He is a fascist and a simpleton. He thinks trump is going to be convicted of manslaughter. He has been shown the statute and the elements over and over. The facts don’t matter. He heard someone on the tv box say it and he agrees. So that is that. He also claims he has a 188 iq. He is a pathological liar and a dullard.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:36 am to TrueTiger
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Congrats on supporting the criminalization of dissent.
Oath Keepers Verdict:
A Dangerous Escalation in Criminalizing Dissent
Otto used to pretend to be an old hippie, that myth has been shattered. He's fully authoritarian.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:39 am to Toomer Deplorable
When Musk says free speech he means in the way the founders envisioned it.
Free from government interaction.
Free from government interaction.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:30 am to Toomer Deplorable
He wanted to punch a guy
Thats a consequence of free speech, not stopping free speech.
Because Musk would have never wanted to punch him, if Ye was never allowed to say what made Elon mad. Amirite?
Thats a consequence of free speech, not stopping free speech.
Because Musk would have never wanted to punch him, if Ye was never allowed to say what made Elon mad. Amirite?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:04 am to squid_hunt
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The owner of the platform. Private property rights are fully in force.
FWIW, in no way am I arguing against Elon’s right to run the platform as he sees fit.
But this argument sounds vaguely familiar. Gee…it seems like we have heard these arguments before:
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:13 am to Flats
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I don’t think he’s any kind of messiah, I just know he’s a quantum leap over the previous regime.
I absolutely agree and I share the same opinion about Trump. Indeed Musk — like Trump — has enemies in all the right places.
The good is not necessarily the enemy of the perfect. Yet another trait that Musk shares with Trump is that Musk’s most devoted fanboys will broker no criticism whatsoever of their Golden Idol.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:18 am to Toomer Deplorable
I'm not necessarily pro-free speech, especially on social media. But Musk definitely isn't a friend to the right-wing and he's already banning people for having opinions that go against the left-wing. His "inciting violence" excuse was obvious BS.
I guess it won't matter what I think, though, when I get the chip put in my brain.
I guess it won't matter what I think, though, when I get the chip put in my brain.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:22 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Why Elon Musk Ultimately Is A False Free-Speech Messiah…
What would they call Twitter before the Musk takeover? The Truth?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:22 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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He's not supposed to feel anything when seeing a swastika and star of David symbol?
Really?
I said no such thing. I indeed feel the urge to throttle a few regulars on this very board — and I’m sure that feeling is mutual.
The issues we discuss here daily are highly charged and strong opinion often leads to strong emotion. Yet there is a huge difference between acknowledging those feelings and arguing that speech which engenders such strong emotion should be banned.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:13 pm to TrueTiger
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No, because it violated his own stated standard.
BUT, is is within his right to do it.
This x1000.
Again, if Musk seeks to suspend accounts willy-nilly based on how a post makes him feel, certainly that is his prerogative. And since Twitter is an ad-dependent social media platform, it certainly is understandable why Musk might believe that allowing a radioactive personality such as Kanye West free reign may hurt his bottom line.
Yet by the most elastic definition of the term, nothing Kanye West posted has come close to inciting violence. It is ludicrous for Musk to claim that such an arbitrary suspension is a violation of Twitter’s TOS.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:37 pm to Toomer Deplorable
You said he’s not for free speech, because he gets angry at what other people say. That’s essentially what I got from your post.
I don’t know where to go from there.
I don’t know where to go from there.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 2:42 am to DEG
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Absolutely no one on this board knows what free speech means or how it practically applies to platforms like twitter.
Doesn't the government telling a private company to ban someone over their speech fall under the protections of the 1A?
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:56 am to Toomer Deplorable
…..and here come the “hit pieces” and negative propaganda from the swamp!!
Like clockwork!! Lol
Like clockwork!! Lol
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:58 am to BBONDS25
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You realize the ONLY context in which “free speech” is a thing is when it comes to the government, right? At least if you’re talking about 1st amendment free speech. Oh wait. You didn’t realize that did you? Oh my. I think we found the problem.
What I realize is that you are dumb and can't think straight with your head up your butt. Take care.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:00 am
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