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re: Why Elon Musk Ultimately Is A False Free-Speech Messiah…
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:04 am to TrueTiger
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:04 am to TrueTiger
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But if you came by and told my wife that she looks wonderful, I would agree with that. That is why this example needs no protection.
So are you a free speech absolutist or not? Was Elon right to ban West?
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:05 am to squid_hunt
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Was Elon right to ban West?
Yes
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:06 am to squid_hunt
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For the record, you don't get to beat someone because you don't like what they're saying. That's a crime.
You do get to, you just don’t get to without consequences.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Twitter still cannot ban people at the behest of bureaucrats
Twitter can ban people for absolutely any reason it wants. Period.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:06 am to squid_hunt
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Was Elon right to ban West?
No, because it violated his own stated standard.
BUT, is is within his right to do it.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:07 am to Toomer Deplorable
I’m just done with the internet outside of TD. It’s a Wild West
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:07 am to squid_hunt
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can't be a Nazi on social media, I don't even know why I have free speech!
Well I for one disagree
Free speech is only for those that speak in accordance with socially acceptable or popular opinions.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:09 am to Zap Rowsdower
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You do get to, you just don’t get to without consequences.
What do we call that? Freedom to Abuse?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:09 am to DEG
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Twitter can ban people for absolutely any reason it wants. Period.
This is correct.
Government officials still cannot try to get people banned on twitter for posting things they dislike. The anti free speech comes from the government collusion.
I really didn't think this was that difficult.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:10 am to DEG
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Exactly. Absolutely no one on this board knows what free speech means or how it practically applies to platforms like twitter.
Oh I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Please expound.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:11 am to novabill
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Free speech is only for those that speak in accordance with socially acceptable or popular opinions.
Today we have approved and unapproved speech.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:11 am to squid_hunt
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No one thinks promoting Nazis is a good idea except the alt right.
Such as? Who are these awful people? And most importantly, are they still on Twitter?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:12 am to squid_hunt
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What do we call that? Freedom to Abuse?
I never said anything about it being a right. If I want to hit someone because of what they said and I did then I GOT to GET what I wanted. The word get has nothing to do with what’s legal.
No one here has said “It’s my right to assault you for exercising speech I don’t agree with.”
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:13 am to squid_hunt
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The free speech absolutists
No such thing. This is a made up term. Anyone that deals in complete absolutes is a moron. You included.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:15 am to DEG
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Twitter can ban people for absolutely any reason it wants. Period.
True. However, when it is at the government’s behest that is a first amendment issue. For someone who fancies themself a free speech expert, you sure don’t seem to know much about free speech.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:15 am to Flats
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I don’t think he’s any kind of messiah, I just know he’s a quantum leap over the previous regime.
It's really this simple.
Some tweets will still be moderated on Twitter. It's not free for all but it is so far leaps and bounds better than it was.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Today we have approved and unapproved speech.
C'mon. Free speech does not mean the right to trample others' private property rights. Was Musk wrong to classify himself as a free speech absolutist? Maybe. I don't know why he said that. Maybe he didn't think it through.
Twitter is a business and you can't have people attacking everyone on the site with Nazi propaganda or your business will fail and he isn't required to do that for your ideals of free speech. Especially when you won't let me come to your house and insult your wife without beating me.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:17 am to BBONDS25
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No such thing. This is a made up term. Anyone that deals in complete absolutes is a moron. You included.
Whole lot of illiterate turds on TD this morning. This is the basis of this entire discussion, douchebag.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:18 am to squid_hunt
Scott Adams explained it perfectly on his podcast. I track exactly with his thinking:
Go to the 28 minute mark- Scott Adams explains why Musk's standard doesn't work (Scott Adams podcast)
Go to the 28 minute mark- Scott Adams explains why Musk's standard doesn't work (Scott Adams podcast)
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