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re: Why Elon Musk Ultimately Is A False Free-Speech Messiah…
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:49 am to squid_hunt
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:49 am to squid_hunt
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Aren't you a libertarian? Literally the basis of the NAP, buddy.
Walking up to a dude and saying "I want to rape your wife" will quickly get you a NAP.
I have no issue with violence when someone requires it.
The NAP doesn't mean you have to be a raging pussy.
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:51 am to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
Didn't you quit politics? Or did you just crave attention?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:52 am to Toomer Deplorable
People say and do things all the time that makes me want to punch them. That doesn't mean I do it though.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I have no issue with violence when someone requires it.
What do the libertarians call that? Principals vs. Principles?
You're still missing the point that my statement was a hypothetical for those claiming Musk is required to tolerate Nazis on his platform if he's for free speech. It just about has to be deliberate by this time.
The same people demanding that if Musk is for free speech he has to allow Nazis would never tolerate someone coming to their house to insult their wife. You're not a free speech absolutist. You're a head in the clouds libertarian idealist who doesn't own a multi-billion dollar company with the investment to want to see it flourish.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:53 am to DEG
based on what enumerated powers can the government ask a private citizen to restrict free speech?
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:57 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:58 am to squid_hunt
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Now go back to bed. Your boyfriend's getting cold.
You idiot. Ignoring the homophobic portion of your post….Elon was referring to censoring at the behest of the government in that tweet. In that sense, he is absolutely a feee speech absolutist. As all should be. You extend that to absolutes beyond government influence. That is a ridiculous position. Can you link Elon saying he is an absolutist as you claim he does? Or is the reference to government influence your only tie? If so, your utter and complete ignorance of the application of the 1st amendment is on full display for all to see. As is your homophobia.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:00 am to BBONDS25
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Ignoring the homophobic portion of your post….
I bet you would.
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free speech absolutist
Words have meaning.
You're still arguing points I'm not making. Run along.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:00 am to DEG
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Read the first amendment and get back to me. The government can ask a business to do whatever it wants to ask it to do. It cannot make laws to prohibit those freedoms.
Your beef isn’t with me. It’s with the US Supreme Court. Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:02 am to squid_hunt
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Words have meaning.
As does context for any non-simpleton. You’re in over your head here, son. You don’t know what you don’t know. The context was clear. You missed it. No biggie. The world needs ditch diggers too.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:03 am to BBONDS25
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As does context for any non-simpleton.
Yeah, get back to me when you get some for this post, slayer of straw men.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:03 am to DEG
Ain’t nobody on this board have any notions of a “free speech Messiah.” That’s just another exaggerated overstatement to be more dramatic about it. Much like “God Emperor Trump” or “Cult leader Trump.” Well, he may be a God Emperor, but the other thing is merely melodrama.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:04 am to squid_hunt
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Yeah, get back to me when you get some for this post, slayer of straw men.
Elon: The Russian government censors content , I will not allow that, I am a free speech absolutist.
Elon: Kanye you’re banned
Squid: onoz!!!!! Elon said he is an absolutist.
Thinking people: squid is a moron.
Squid: uh uh. You’re gay.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:06 am to TrueTiger
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the limit of free speech bans speech that offends and makes people uncomfortable, then there isn't really free speech.
there isn't then.
musk fired people who recently semi publicly (at work) pointed out work errors by Elon.
where they really errors or 5 D chess?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:07 am to Toomer Deplorable
Actual liberals from decades ago were the biggest proponents of an individual’s right to free speech. When I was in school long ago, libs preached that they might disagree with the opinions of others, but the Constitution guaranteed their right to express those opinions.
So if Elon is one of them, it doesn’t matter if he’s leftist at heart. He’s a good spokesperson in this case.
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musk fired people who recently semi publicly (at work) pointed out work errors by Elon.
And he can do what he pleases with the organizations he owns. The 1st amendment does not prevent your boss from shutting you up.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:08 am to CelticDog
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musk fired people who recently semi publicly (at work) pointed out work errors by Elon.
Which errors, specifically? They gonna get him with manslaughter?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:08 am to BBONDS25
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Elon: The Russian government censors content , I will not allow that, I am a free speech absolutist.
Elon: Kanye you’re banned
Squid: onoz!!!!! Elon said he is an absolutist.
Seriously. You need to back and read what I actually wrote on this post.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:09 am to squid_hunt
So you didnt say Elon is a free speech absolutist (meaning beyond in response to government)? If you didn’t, what does his reaction to Kanye have to do with anything?
You keeping up or are you thinking of your next super clever homophobic jab? Those are very witty. Dummy.
You keeping up or are you thinking of your next super clever homophobic jab? Those are very witty. Dummy.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:16 am to BBONDS25
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They gonna get him with manslaughter?
whistling past the graveyard.
the oath keepers being guilty of seditious conspiracy is the required underlying crime for the manslaughter charge.
patience Barry.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:20 am to BBONDS25
Musk did say he was a free speech absolutist. If you want to argue context, that's your deal. I said I don't know why he would say that, but I didn't agree with it in the context of censoring on Twitter.
The OP was springboarding off that comment by Musk to say that Musk could not censor Nazis on Twitter and be a free speech absolutist.
I said that was silly and offered a hypothetical where I come to the free speech absolutists' house and insult their wife. Apparently, by their reaction, not as absolute as they pretend, which was my point.
The OP was springboarding off that comment by Musk to say that Musk could not censor Nazis on Twitter and be a free speech absolutist.
I said that was silly and offered a hypothetical where I come to the free speech absolutists' house and insult their wife. Apparently, by their reaction, not as absolute as they pretend, which was my point.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:22 am to Toomer Deplorable
Hear hear! Since he's not an absolute free speech advocate, then I demand he sell Twitter back to the motherfrickers who would suspend or ban me for daring to remotely criticize wokeness.
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