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Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:22 am to Uga Alum
I suggest you read up on history and get back to us with facts to support your positions. You can leave out Biblical history if you choose. Just the history going back to the early 20th century should suffice.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:22 am to rtr72
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Because they’re God‘s chosen people and because of our protection, we have been blessed with 250 years of prosperity
Lies and easily disprovable
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:23 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Also, without Israel, the Holy Land would be inaccessible to Christian’s pilgrims
Lies
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:25 am to Uga Alum
Pragmatism. The same countries that want to destroy Isreal also hate the United States.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:27 am to Stidham8
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This. They are strategic military stations that keep the rest of the world in check.
Anyone saying defund these places doesn’t have the slightest inkling of geopolitical strategy.
This is the correct answer.
And it's pretty obvious to anyone with two working brain cells.
Of course, that disqualifies anyone who thinks Huckster Carlson is anything other than a...well...huckster.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:28 am to LSUwag
1.3 billion Catholics don’t believe is dispensationalism. 300 million Orthodox Christians don’t believe in dispensationalism. 64% of Protestants don’t believe in dispensationalism. That means that 2.3 billion Christians on planet earth don’t believe in dispensationalism.
Yet a bunch of baptists on this website want to tell me how important the nation of Israel is because the preacher from their strip mall church said so. Sad.
Yet a bunch of baptists on this website want to tell me how important the nation of Israel is because the preacher from their strip mall church said so. Sad.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:28 am to Uga Alum
Israel does evil af things. Still support them.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:29 am to Uga Alum
It’s because it’s all they know. The media has them brainwashed.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:32 am to Uga Alum
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Uga Alum
Ignoring your idiotic thread title, to the point, there is plenty of deserved criticism towards Israel.
However, and this is not justification for endless spending on Israel but, play out in long term what happens if Israel would have been left to their own devices, with no help from the US.
They would likely not exist anymore. An arabic genocide would have occurred decades ago. So, let's let that play out. Let's assume by the mid to late 80s that Israel is no longer there.
1) Like it or not, the US is supposed to be the moral center of the world. We just let an entire race/religion get wiped out of a portion of the world. What does that say for other minorities? Looks like they are screwed too. Oh well.
2) Do you think the ME is now in peace? Do you believe that a religion charged with essentially "convert the world or kill those who won't" will stop now that Israel isn't an problem? What do you think happens in that region. What is the next course of action?
3) Coupled with 2, the extremist sects grow even more powerful, what do you think that means to Western culture? Do you think extremist muslims are intent to leave America or Europe alone?
4) Since we are not intervening in the same token as we did not with Israel, Europe is kind of fricked. How does this play out?
It seems reasonable, to assume that Israel's purpose is to keep radical Islam in check. We pay a premium to do this. And while i do not agree with the money sent there considering our own problems, i do understand a point of view that not doing so, could mean human cost down the road.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:32 am to Stidham8
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geopolitical strategy.
Is too hard for Americans educated in our current system. They either think we're evil or we can isolate ourselves from the world and maintain our standard of living. Neither are true.
Spending a few billion in Israel, South Korea, Ukraine, and Taiwan achieve more than hundreds of billions spend conquering our enemies would. It's not what the founders intended, but our founders could never fathom 13 colonies becoming the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth and being the cross hairs of every evil regime on the planet.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:35 am to Smeg
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I think some people here think if you criticize Israel then you must be simping for Palestinians, or something similar. Like you "must pick a side" and support it.
Not at all.
First of all, no one here "criticizes" Israel. That's not what happens.
What happens—depending on the poster—is somewhere on the scale between a call to defund supporting Israel as an ally to claiming that Israel is headed by Satan and that white Europeans are actually Jews, and the people who claim to be Jews run the entire world despite having less than 1% of the population of the world.
Somewhere in that range.
So what (reasonable) people really think is that when others go there on the board, it simply means that they have consumed way too much thinly disguised Anti-Semitism tabloid conspiracy nonsense masquerading as journalism from the likes of Huckster Carlson and (now) Candice Owens, and simply have a kindergarten level of understanding about foreign policy.
Now, it's true that defunding Israel would indeed embolden and greatly benefit Muslims in the ME and they would be more of a headache than they already are, by a significant margin. But that would be a result of listening to the moron brigade, not the reasoning behind choosing to not listen.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:35 am to rtr72
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Because they’re God‘s chosen people and because of our protection, we have been blessed with 250 years of prosperity
They is neither Jew nor Greek. Go study.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:36 am to Uga Alum
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Yet a bunch of baptists on this website want to tell me how important the nation of Israel is because the preacher from their strip mall church said so. Sad.
Who, specifically? Which posters are telling you that?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:38 am to Meauxjeaux
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Israel does evil af things. Still support them.
I doubt if I were to ask, "What evil things?" there would be much if anything at all on your list that wasn't a stupid conspiracy theory instead of a fact, but let's set that aside.
Yes. The answer is yes. If it benefits the US to support them more than it benefits the US to not, then yes, support them even if they do evil things.
Again, this is basic foreign policy.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:40 am to YouKnowImRight
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Is too hard for Americans educated in our current system. They either think we're evil or we can isolate ourselves from the world and maintain our standard of living. Neither are true.
Spending a few billion in Israel, South Korea, Ukraine, and Taiwan achieve more than hundreds of billions spend conquering our enemies would. It's not what the founders intended, but our founders could never fathom 13 colonies becoming the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth and being the cross hairs of every evil regime on the planet.
I dunno that I can blame our educational system.
It's really not a hard thought exercise.
I think it's more willful than anything else.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:42 am to rtr72
quote:Paul wrote to the Christians—primarily Gentiles—in Colossae, that they were also chosen by God, and that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile).
Because they’re God‘s chosen people
Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all. Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony -Col 3:11-14
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:43 am to Uga Alum
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The vast majority of Christians don’t believe in dispensationalism.
99.999% of "Christians" couldn't tell you what dispensationalism is, much less opine on it. To your OP, Israel is the only true ally we have in the Middle East. You can't put a price on what Israel's worth is to the US is in terms of Geopolitical value. Three point eight Billion is literally spare change. In 2022 the US spent 4 billion on Global LGBT initiatives.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:47 am to BuckeyeGoon
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The Hebrews of the old testament became Christians.
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The ethnically eastern european people who established the nation of Israel in the 20th century are not "God's chosen people".
Can't tell if you are truly this misguided or if this is just politically driven drivel.
Either way both statements are patently false.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 8:48 am to rtr72
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Because they’re God‘s chosen people and because of our protection, we have been blessed with 250 years of prosperity
We’ve been bankrolling them since the 60s and everything has gone to shite since then
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