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re: Why does the left have a random “libertarian” streak against flock cameras? Feels phony

Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:07 pm to
Maybe so but that’s not what the Fourth Amendment protects. If you want more privacy protections, pass new laws.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:10 pm to
Because it captures and records what takes place on a public street. A person with a notepad could do the same thing. This isn’t a privacy issue in my opinion. I do see the surveillance state concerns but frankly that’s the reality of modern life. If you want to stop the flock cameras, call your local legislator. I would rather capture criminals than ban flock cameras though.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:11 pm to
You should never give an inch to the government. I don’t have anything to hide but flock is a slippery slope to a surveillance state. Right now they “only take images of license plates”, eventually they will be on every street with big brother watching you live.

Again, every American should be against this.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:11 pm to
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That’s literally what the camera does. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy while driving down a public street. If you want such a privacy right, petition the legislature.


I have no reasonable expectation of privacy when Bills Pharmacy or whoever has a stand alone camera at their store but this goes way beyond that. Automated cameras that are continuously identifying and tracking movements across cities/counties/states is a completely different thing. Stand alone cameras cant detail your day to day patterns and store them in a cloud somewhere.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:13 pm to
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Because it captures and records what takes place on a public street. A person with a notepad could do the same thing.


I have no problem with a citizen doing this, my problem is it’s the government. I 100% agree with there is no expectation of privacy in public. How come the government doesn’t like citizens filming them?
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:14 pm to
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I would rather capture criminals than ban flock cameras though.


There it is. The ole mention crimes being solved to try and appeal to emotion over logic. Police have solved crimes for decades without a dragnet surveillance system tracking the entire population.
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:17 pm to
Police solved murders before DNA testing too. Science and technology evolve.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Why does the supposedly small government right boot lick flock cameras?


Do what? That’s bullshite and the opposite of reality. Every single person I’ve talked to wants them gone
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5330 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:25 pm to
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Do what? That’s bullshite and the opposite of reality. Every single person I’ve talked to wants them gone


look around in this thread and any other thread about flock cameras about here
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Only "the left" is against flock? That's retarded.


Speaking of retarded, he didn’t say that
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:08 pm to
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have no reasonable expectation of privacy while driving down a public street


I also have no reasonable expectation of being forced to participate in a surveillance state simply by driving down a street,
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:11 pm to
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would rather capture criminals than ban flock cameras though.


Do you have evidence these cameras have made an appreciable difference in criminal apprehensions?

List (5) such instances. I reply with (50) times the cameras were abused by law enforcement (that we know of).
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:15 pm to
Don't want their rent-a-mobs interfered with.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:21 pm to
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My guess is that they think it will turn up their foot soldiers committing crimes, on their behalf or otherwise.


And they probably believe flock cameras will lead to more "black and brown people being incarcerated," seeing as they commit the vast majority of street crime in this country.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Every American should be against flock.


I am... but it's already too late. Flock cameras are here to stay. We're fricked.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:30 pm to
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And stalk women.


Flock's 'war on women.'
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:55 pm to
Not only has Flock been around for years, but the technology in various forms has been around for DECADES.

Also, going to be a lot of hurt feelings when the agitators discover a lot of the ANPR technology is software based. A good camera helps, but that's a lot of it.

I'm a fan of it. The local police here have used it with great success. Don't have stats, but stolen cars and such are recovered regularly from its use from the PD's social media posts.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:09 pm to
Think about great these Flocks would have been in 2020 to help in the enforcing of government mandated lockdowns
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