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why does the left hate gerrymandering so much when they do the same thing in blue states?

Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted by bdavids09
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:26 pm
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Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:27 pm to
Hypocrites
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:27 pm to
It's just like anything else. They only hate it when it's used against them.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:41 pm to
There’s a reason Sheila Jackson Lee continues to be re-elected.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:42 pm to
Does anyone up in here remember the Cleo Fields 'lightning bolt'?
Posted by Adajax
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:45 pm to
Because they can wail that Republicans are trying to rig elections and get complete cover from the media.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:46 pm to
Because if they didn’t have double standards they wouldn’t have any standards at all.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:46 pm to
They are moral relativists who will use any and every tool and tactic for their own gain while condemning any tool and tactic (even if they are the same ones that they otherwise support) when it suits their needs.

When you don't subscribe to objective truth and morality, you're free to be entirely inconsistent.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:00 pm to
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why does the left hate gerrymandering so much when they do the same thing in blue states?




That's the dirty little secret they don't want anyone pondering: they benefit far more from gerry-mandering than the GOP does. Quite a few minority members in the House (maybe even a majority of them) have their seats SOLELY because their districts were gerrymandered specifically to create minority districts.

See also: Louisiana's 2nd Congressional District

Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:38 pm to
Because they're no better than the people they hate.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:30 pm to
They went hard in Missouri for a gerrymandering bill.

The original bill was worded where people were confused which side they wanted. It passed, but Jeff city was able to get a new Bill, explaining exactly what new bill meant.

Hollywood spent millions, Arnold gave a few millions, and Holder got 5mil raised for it.

Liberals had spent millions to get it passed, Conservatives spent nothing, and it failed miserably.

It was a win for the voters, and a middle finger to Holder,stl,kc, libtards and their ilk.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:34 pm to
I say it in every thread where gerrymandering is discussed but gerrymandering is one of the most American institutions there is. It's been a thing since 1812 and I have no problem with it. Win local elections when it comes time to redraw districts.

If you want to completely get rid of gerrymandering you'll also have to support getting rid of minority-majority districts.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:35 pm to
I doubt there's much complaining at the state level from those blue states.

At the national level it's simply because there are more red states than blue.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29115 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

If you want to completely get rid of gerrymandering you'll also have to support getting rid of minority-majority districts.


The two aren't mutually exclusive.

ETA: In Georgia at least, it would be possible to get 1-2 majority-minority districts without purposefully doing so.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:38 pm to
Seeing maps like this makes me want to kick a puppy. I hate gerrymandering. It gives you unimpeachable candidates from both parties. In this day and age, you'd think we could impartially create these using a computer.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:17 pm to
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we could impartially create these using a computer.


Balance that a bit. Run a hundred thousand permutations. Top ten get brought to a board of elected officials, they pick the three they like. Put all three in a hat, pull out rando. Done and done. Good mix of tech/human and old/new ways of doing things.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259912 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:20 pm to
Cleo fields was the poster child for this. They created the most insane district for him to win.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:39 pm to
The same reason they tell you asking for a photo ID is racist.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47479 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:50 pm to
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SOLELY because their districts were gerrymandered specifically to create minority districts.

that’s not really gerrymandering because a court order required those districts get made to ensure at least one minority got elected to Congress

What that also does is make the R districts near there uncompetitive for them as well, so it worked out for both parties
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:18 pm to
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that’s not really gerrymandering


It’s exactly gerrymandering.
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