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re: Why does Hollywood keep race swapping iconic white characters?
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:20 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:20 am to burger bearcat
They are eaten up with stupid leftist ideology that has rendered them stupid. Get woke, go broke is a lesson they haven't learned just yet.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:21 am to LordSaintly
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I wouldn't count Spiderman in this. Miles Morales was a comic book character first.
While this is true, his creation in the comics was because of the same reason. They used the popularity of the spider-man name to launch a new minority character. This isn't uncommon. He just happens to be a really popular one because of the Spider-verse movie.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:23 am to teke184
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Their solution to this was “Make their dad Morgan Freeman and say Sue is adopted.”
Wasn't Morgan Freeman, it was the late Reg E. Cathey (who, incidentally, also played Luke Cage's dad in the Netflix series):

Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:24 am to matty3387
First, this is what I call waiting for your pitch:
matty3387
Metairie
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If you mean does it matter that they are doing this to all of this old entertainment, yes, it matters a lot. For starters, if it did not matter TO THEM they would not be doing it, right? If it did not matter what race or gender a character was, they would not be desperately attempting to swap them at every conceivable opportunity.
What I care about in all of these things in this topic is staying true to canon and lore. If a character was originally written as a black trans amputee, I'd be bothered if they decided to cast Brad Pitt in the role, or decided to "reimagine" the character as a white male if they did an animated adaptation. Likewise, if a character was written as a white straight male, having it suddenly become a black lesbian is an affront to the cannon of the story.
The problem is they have been largely successful in getting normal people so tired f the endless chaos that they're willingly throwing their hands in their air saying, "Whatever...it's just comic books, or movies, or TV," without understanding that politics is downstream from culture. by abandoning this, we give up the future entirely.
matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
4 posts
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Does it really matter?
If you mean does it matter that they are doing this to all of this old entertainment, yes, it matters a lot. For starters, if it did not matter TO THEM they would not be doing it, right? If it did not matter what race or gender a character was, they would not be desperately attempting to swap them at every conceivable opportunity.
What I care about in all of these things in this topic is staying true to canon and lore. If a character was originally written as a black trans amputee, I'd be bothered if they decided to cast Brad Pitt in the role, or decided to "reimagine" the character as a white male if they did an animated adaptation. Likewise, if a character was written as a white straight male, having it suddenly become a black lesbian is an affront to the cannon of the story.
The problem is they have been largely successful in getting normal people so tired f the endless chaos that they're willingly throwing their hands in their air saying, "Whatever...it's just comic books, or movies, or TV," without understanding that politics is downstream from culture. by abandoning this, we give up the future entirely.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:25 am to theunknownknight
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This is all INTENTIONAL
It’s meant to undermine and destroy past traditions that actually united us
You are 100% correct, I just cannot see how they aren't going bankrupt with this shite. If Hollywood is run by Jewish people, they have to hate losing money on all this woke crap.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:28 am to VoxDawg
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They're looking to erase whiteness from history.
So they are just going to draw in the dirt with a stick? Because they can’t use any technology invented by whites.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:28 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Ummmm, I get what you're trying to say, but Englishmen aren't just white males
Sean Connery wasn’t English, so I guess he doesn’t count
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:30 am to LordSaintly
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I would kill to watch a movie or show about West African myth or a show about the Mali Empire. There's a lot of material there but Hollywood ignores it.
Yup. It's not Thor's cannon's fault that Stan Lee decided to adapt Norse mythology and by doing so made Thor famous again. Taking that mythos and sticking black people in there to make it look more like today does not solve anything. where is today's Stan Lee who is creative and interested in creating their own new worlds in which to play?
Likewise, Tolkien was writing about a very specific place and thus his characters reflect that. Altering them to better appeal to today's activists only serves to ruin the man's actual vision and removes yet another opportunity from some modern creative from creating their own new story without limitations of a known world created by someone else.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:38 am to Esquire
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Sean Connery wasn’t English, so I guess he doesn’t count
Um...
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The character of James Bond was created back in 1953 by Ian Fleming with a very clear description and back story. Fleming described his character as a Scottish man in interviews and his parentage was made pretty clear in the 1964 book You Only Live Twice, where his mother was revealed to be Swiss and his father was Scottish: a Highlander from near Glencoe.
Fleming himself has Scottish roots and spent a lot of his childhood in Glencoe and we saw how important Bond’s history is in the latest films Skyfall and Spectre. Plus Fleming used many of his own interests to shape Bond. His love of scrambled eggs, golf and gambling all come from Fleming’s own tastes and Bond uses the same toiletries and cigarettes Fleming loved.
A guy that could have been cast at one point but wasn't...Adrian Paul from TV's Highlander:
first, he looks a ton like Connery and played Scottish in his most famous role.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:13 pm to burger bearcat
Disney has plenty of non-white characters:
Mulan
Tiana
Moana
Pocahontas
Jasmine
Aladin
Mulan
Tiana
Moana
Pocahontas
Jasmine
Aladin
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:20 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Englishmen aren't just white males.
For most of recorded history, they were in fact though.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:22 pm to burger bearcat
I am only familiar with 3 of the examples you cited:
1. James Bond. IIRC, the last Bond movie, Bond retired and the Agent 007 title was given to a young black woman. It's not like James Bond was suddenly re-cast as a black woman. His successor just happen to be a young black woman. She had a pretty minor role in the film; James Bond was still the main character.
2. Superman: Superman wasn't recast as gay...his son turned out to be bi-sexual. And it was in the comics, not a movie or TV, so your "Hollywood" title isn't applicable.
3. Spiderman: Miles Morales was just in the comics as until "Into the Spiderverse" was made. There, Spiderman was killed and MM gained spirman powers and started doing his own gig. BTW, this movie had other "Spidermen" from other universes, including a young girl, another young girl, and a pig.
PS Boston Legal had a black Annie 20 years ago.
1. James Bond. IIRC, the last Bond movie, Bond retired and the Agent 007 title was given to a young black woman. It's not like James Bond was suddenly re-cast as a black woman. His successor just happen to be a young black woman. She had a pretty minor role in the film; James Bond was still the main character.
2. Superman: Superman wasn't recast as gay...his son turned out to be bi-sexual. And it was in the comics, not a movie or TV, so your "Hollywood" title isn't applicable.
3. Spiderman: Miles Morales was just in the comics as until "Into the Spiderverse" was made. There, Spiderman was killed and MM gained spirman powers and started doing his own gig. BTW, this movie had other "Spidermen" from other universes, including a young girl, another young girl, and a pig.
PS Boston Legal had a black Annie 20 years ago.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:27 pm to roadGator
It's ridiculous. You'd think the country was made up of 75% from that particular race. Where are the Latinos and Asians?
Btw there's one white commercial actor I wish would disappear, AT&T's Lily. So tired of seeing her. In fact I'd be happy if a woman of color would replace her, specifically Latina or Asian.
Btw there's one white commercial actor I wish would disappear, AT&T's Lily. So tired of seeing her. In fact I'd be happy if a woman of color would replace her, specifically Latina or Asian.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:28 pm to Big Daddy Kayne
Lily has some nice sweater puppies and she can’t hide them no matter how hard she tries.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:31 pm to burger bearcat
They are virtue signaling to appease the race industry.
They don't understand that the racialists will keep demanding more when you appease them.
The only way to make them go away is give them nothing and ignore them.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:32 pm to burger bearcat
The 11%'ers seemingly have no idea that their numbers don't equate to the changes they want to see universally in cinema, or otherwise.
I remember a story on here where there was an article that watchmaking was racist because there weren't enough black watchmakers. Let that sink in and once you determine the absurdity of the statement, then you'll understand your core question has no logical answer.
The whole BLM movement, being "woke", "inclusion", white shaming, among other narratives have absolute motives of making others feel better about themselves at the expense of the authenticity of the work or race that made it happen in the first place.
I remember a story on here where there was an article that watchmaking was racist because there weren't enough black watchmakers. Let that sink in and once you determine the absurdity of the statement, then you'll understand your core question has no logical answer.
The whole BLM movement, being "woke", "inclusion", white shaming, among other narratives have absolute motives of making others feel better about themselves at the expense of the authenticity of the work or race that made it happen in the first place.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:32 pm to jonnyanony
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Didn't realize James bond had been recast
That's the dumbest one of all.
If they want a diverse Bond series, just create his children with different women. It wouldn't exactly stretch credibility.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:37 pm to burger bearcat
If someone/group attempted even the slightest scintilla of trying to promote whiteness in any mode…they would be run on a rail however we are peppered with the inverse constantly. This is why we will always have division in some fashion as race is always interjected into the mix, almost exclusively by the left, while they in turn cling to things like bigotry of low expectations and other subtle to not so subtle racist views. Projection of epic proportions! Those of us conservatives would absolutely love to deal with people as people and put the racial things behind us where it belongs but the left is who keeps it stirred up.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:27 pm to Zach
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It makes up for all the white guys who played Indians.
And who can forget the time John Wayne played Genghis Khan in "The Conqueror". Talk about bad casting....
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:32 pm to Big Daddy Kayne
They even took Jake from State Farm.
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