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re: Why do you think the government declares wars on various societal ills but the war on guns
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:43 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:43 pm to 4cubbies
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Why do you think the government declares wars on various societal ills but the war on guns
4cubbies
is framed as "gun control" instead of the war on guns or the war on gun violence?
Other than how ridiculous the war on gun violence is as a statement?
In general we don't have a good word in our vocab outside of war to make catchy slogans for societal change with.
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:51 pm to Houag80
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Nailed it. Don't feed the troll.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:15 pm to 4cubbies
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is framed as "gun control" instead of the war on guns or the war on gun violence?
So you're asking why we have a "war on drugs" or a "war on terror", but no (official) "war on guns"?
That's a pretty stupid question. The comparison is apples and pomegranites.
Can you elaborate on what's confusing you?
Why would you compare a illegal/undesirable behaviors or substances to a constitutionally protected right?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:16 pm to St Augustine
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Because guns aren’t a societal ill?
Damn, you dick slapped the dude while he wasnt looking.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:17 pm to 4cubbies
We haven't declared "war" on a single facet of society that we've actually won. STFU.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:28 pm to Jay Quest
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government declare war on the Constitution?
They’ve done this for decades
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:31 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:53 pm to 4cubbies
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is framed as "gun control" instead of the war on guns or the war on gun violence?
Semantics and optics. Nothing more. I mean it really doesn't give off good vibes to say "war on gun violence" when war kinda implies gun violence.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:00 pm to 4cubbies
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OK. Have you ever heard of gun control before?
Sure...use both hands...control your weapon.
That's what you mean right?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:01 pm to beaux duke
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every day
Link some from yesterday.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:03 pm to 4cubbies
Please read what you wrote and try again.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:04 pm to jizzle6609
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Damn, you dick slapped the dude while he wasnt looking.
She is used to it...dude is a lady in real life.
She goes by the name of "chubs" here.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:24 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:OP didn't revise her OP in any way.
So you're asking why we have a "war on drugs" or a "war on terror", but no (official) "war on guns"?
That's a pretty stupid question. The comparison is apples and pomegranites.
So cut to the chase OP and move to Londistan, England where the war on guns and knives won.
Knives are only allowed as machetes to behead you for not obeying Sharia Law.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:26 pm to 4cubbies
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quote:Because guns aren’t a societal ill? OK. Have you ever heard of gun control before?
Your poor husband is probably a doormat of doormats
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:55 pm to 4cubbies
Because women like me need protection when people break into our homes while we are there. Thank God and our forefathers for the 2nd amendment. And frick all of you who think I should have just been another statistic.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:08 pm to DMAN1968
this as close as i can get. takes a couple days to update. are you contending that all or most of these guns were illegally owned?
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:11 pm to 4cubbies
Why don’t you tell your side to stop using guns for illegal purposes.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:25 pm to St Augustine
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Because guns aren’t a societal ill?
Ahhhhhh they kinda are.
Gun violence is only high in very specific segments of society.
Very specific demographics.
If you waged war on “guns” you’d have to go after the parts of society that are the worse offenders.
The US has a gun related violence rate similar to Belgium if you take away minorities.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:25 pm to wackatimesthree
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Honestly, they haven't gotten very far with any of the "War On ____" that I can think of.
Great point, actually. Declaring war on something ensures that no progress will be made to eliminate whatever it is on which the war is declared.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:28 pm to Pettifogger
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Yeah maybe, but those opposed to the efforts (most of the country) probably roll their eyes at the constant categorization of violence as "gun violence" because they understand the point of the modifier is to oppose guns
And those in support of the efforts probably worry it's too broad and risks targeting their bedrock communities and the causes of "gun violence" which they don't actually concern themselves with.
But in reality I think there is simply no real mandate for change or increased pressure on anything to do with gun regulation, and the left is probably pretty unexcited about trying anything fresh in that regard.
I agree with this all. I’m curious as to why what we know as gun control was ever labeled gun control in the first place. I guess the palatable angle makes some sense. Maybe no one thought the movement would take off.
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