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re: Why do poor people pretend they're rich?

Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46339 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

top 5% of earners are the biggest beneficiaries of GOP tax policies.


You are either incredibly misinformed or trolling.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:00 pm to
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You are either incredibly misinformed or trolling.



Oh he believes it.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74101 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:00 pm to
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Then you're a fricking idiot, basically.
So, you are not actually here to debate. You are here to fling shite and troll.

You are essentially arguing that people should not be allowed to hold certain views.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:00 pm to
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Just because you are not rich does NOT mean you can't out of principle believe that taxes should overall be lower in America.



So you supported Obama over Boehner, right? Obama wanted to cut your taxes. Boehner didn't care about you, only those making considerably more money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

You are essentially arguing that people should not be allowed to hold certain views.


He lacks the capacity to see why everyone doesn't think like him, typical insulated prog
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:01 pm to
Tax cuts benefit the top earners disproportionately because they pay a massively disproportionate amount of taxes relative to low income earners. There is no way to cut taxes across the board and not disproportionately benefit the top brackets.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46339 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:01 pm to
Then he’s incapable of reading and digesting actual facts. Either way, waste of my time.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74101 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:01 pm to
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So you supported Obama over Boehner, right?
What a lame attempt at a gotcha.

Boehner wanted it all to be preserved. Obama was the only one that wanted to raise taxes on anybody.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:02 pm to
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Then he’s incapable of reading and digesting actual facts. Either way, waste of my time.


Yep, you can't talk to indoctrinated people.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

Your entire OP is absurd on face value. 

Just because you are not rich does NOT mean you can't out of principle believe that taxes should overall be lower in America. 

That is like saying you shouldn't support marijuana legalization if you never actually will consume any. 

Or that you shouldn't support civil asset forfeiture reform if you will never be in that position where they will seize your assets.


Thanks for translating because I kept zoning out reading the OP.

Yeah OP is a doofus if he can't grasp this simple concept.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Boehner wanted it all to be preserved. Obama was the only one that wanted to raise taxes on anybody.


So you supported the man working against your own pocketbook. Got it. That's the entire fricking point of this thread.

But hey, at least you can still tell ole Jim Bob you're a republican...a MAN'S MAN...MAGA bitch!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:05 pm to
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Yeah OP is a doofus


Firmly established
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74101 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:11 pm to
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Yeah OP is a doofus if he can't grasp this simple concept.
The OP's worldview is actually more than just stupid, it is fundamentally dangerous.

Voting solely for your financial self-interest, while ignoring everything else, opens the door to all kinds of potential abuses against minority groups, whether ethnic, class-based, etc, in the name of "self interest"

It was in the financial self interest of a southerner to support slavery, it was in the financial self interest of a 1930s german to support the Nazis against wealthy jews.

All kinds of persecution against minority groups by the majority, for financial self-gain, all across the globe have historically taken place, often by the less well off for financial gain.

The Ibos in nigeria

the parsees in India

Armenians in ottoman empire

chinese in malyasia

lebanese in west africa

tamils in sri lanka

all these groups faced violence, persecution, etc, by a majority who solely were thinking of their financial self interest.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

So you supported the man working against your own pocketbook. Got it. That's the entire fricking point of this thread.


Please show me where GOP sponsored and signed legislation has led to a $17,000 tax increase for someone making $125k...

quote:

But hey, at least you can still tell ole Jim Bob you're a republican...a MAN'S MAN...MAGA bitch!


Outside of personal conversations with me, my father does not discuss politics with anyone. He’s put one political sign in their yard in 35+ years and it was for our cousin who was running for city council...as a democrat.

Please. Continue your narrative.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6842 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:24 pm to
What if I just want to keep my money and you keep your money?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:25 pm to
I’m guessing that’s probably racist somehow
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8638 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:34 pm to
I haven't read all the replies, but you do realize that all the traditional left programs require much higher (on the order of 15 - 20%) taxes for the middle and upper-middle classes, right? That's still where the great bulk of income - taxable or not - is in this country. It's what the Scandanavians require.

Oh, we also spend more per capita in education (which is largely through public avenues) and healthcare (about half of which is through public avenues) than anyone else in the world and get about the 25th - 30th best outcomes in both? Clearly, public spending on the marginal dollar doesn't work out that well right now in the U.S.

Maybe these people are a little smarter than you give them credit.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14111 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

Are you wary of your income to feel it's easier to just say you're Republican than to share your salary?



Why would anyone share their salary that they've worked for?
Posted by Canada_Baw
Member since Dec 2017
2489 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:55 am to
I’m not sure wtf I just read but I have no idea how you hoodwinked someone into paying you minimum wage let alone the income you just claimed.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35868 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:59 am to
Wait, you think democrats support the middle class? Oh, that’s rich.
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