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re: Why do poor people pretend they're rich?

Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:51 pm to
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So wtf is up with the rest of y'all voting against your own pocketbooks?


In the case of my self-employed father, Obamacare hit him with an additional $17,000 in healthcare premiums annually. For a worse plan.

He makes less than your $250k threshold.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42225 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:51 pm to
How are lowering tax cuts on everyone not in my financial best interest? And I don’t think republicans want to pay no taxes, we just don’t want to support cowboy poetry, transgendered story time, or planned parenthood with our tax dollars
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74102 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Then why does no Republican on this board come out against GOP tax policies?
You keep on saying GOP tax policy raises taxes on the poor and non-rich.

What in the frick are you talking about?

only 5% of people did not get a tax cut from the TCJA, and those 5% are rich people who lost the SALT deduction.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:52 pm to
Democrats are the party of the rich elitists.

Sure plenty of poor people vote Democrat, almost all of them minorities.

The situation is exactly like in every third world country ont he planet.

A small ruling class (the ivory tower leftist living in cities, the ones who control the media, big tech, universities, etc.) and a hoard of unwashed masses who they manipulate.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:52 pm to
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You haven’t explained how GOP tax policies are against their own financial interests.


top 5% of earners are the biggest beneficiaries of GOP tax policies. Remember why Boehner shutdown the government in 2011 or 2012? Because Obama only wanted to extend the Bush tax cuts for bottom 95% of earners. Boehner and company literally shut down the federal government to ensure those folks making over $250k per year would keep a 4% lower top rate than letting the cuts elapse would provide.

WHY, if that policy only covers 5% of citizens, would 47% support the policy?
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18680 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:52 pm to
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You've got a beautiful family of four. Two little girls, an OT 8 wife. You pull down $110k a year, wife pulls down another $100k. You've got nice vehicles, a fishing boat, retirement funds on the right track, and a really nice house in a good neighborhood.

This person? This person is poor, in terms of income tax laws. Why do people who live comfortably pretend that they're rich? Is it a status thing? Like, "Yo Jimbo, I'm a republican. I ain't going to pay taxes to cover poor people."? Like you get across the idea that you obviously make good money because you vote republican instead of just sharing your income? Are you wary of your income to feel it's easier to just say you're Republican than to share your salary?

One of the biggest misconceptions of liberals is this whole "socialist" thing. I bring home good money. Do I bring home more than $250k annually? Nope. But I'm in the top 10% of ALL EARNERS in this country. Even so, I'm not in the top tax bracket so WHY IN THE frick would I vote for politicians and policies that predominately look out for only the top bracket?

Hell, even if I make it to the top bracket, say $300K gross, I only get charged the top rate on anything over $250k. It's not a big difference even if I barely make into that top bracket.

If you look at recent elections and figure 45-47% of voters nationally support GOP tax policies, that means roughly 40% of people are voting against their own financial interests (based on $250k income is top 5%).

WHY? Why are y'all doing this? I'm sure there are some on this board who make greater, if not far greater than, $250k year. But there aren't many of you. So wtf is up with the rest of y'all voting against your own pocketbooks?


You can hah blah all you want. I am OK with taxes. The government needs to be able to operate on what its currently getting. Business (Trump) is much more efficient. I dont mind some social programs that are needed. I hate the abuse.

I don't think about my own pocketbook overall when it comes to politics. I think about America as a whole.



ETA: MAGA We have a household income of like 75k. Im broke as frick from debt. Young, dumb and stupidity on my part (Not a victim). I work and pay that shite. I was a democrat and tried to be more libertarian, but todays left....I am a republican now.

The deep state is getting their division. They forgot we are smart enough that we will be taking them down along with the democrats.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:53 pm to
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What in the frick are you talking about?


He doesn't know. It's a retarded talking point.

I think he's assuming only the rich benefit from tax policy and since few here aren't rich, we should be against it?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20176 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:54 pm to
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On a dimwit liberal brainwashed scale 1 to 10 you are a 22.


You give him too much credit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:54 pm to
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WHY, if that policy only covers 5% of citizens


This is so wrong. You have no clue what your talking about
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:54 pm to
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In the case of my self-employed father, Obamacare hit him with an additional $17,000 in healthcare premiums annually. For a worse plan.

He makes less than your $250k threshold.


And this self-employed father probably voted for a Republican governor who passed up Medicaid expansion to his state which, of course, would've saved him a TREMENDOUS amount of money.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74102 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:55 pm to
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WHY, if that policy only covers 5% of citizens, would 47% support the policy?
What? Maybe because they out of principle think taxes should be lowered?

Are we not allowed to be in favor of laws that might not actually benefit us personally?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:56 pm to
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And this self-employed father probably voted for a Republican governor who passed up Medicaid expansion to his state which, of course, would've saved him a TREMENDOUS amount of money.


Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:56 pm to
For the life of me, I have never figured out why anyone that gets paid by the hour, or carries a lunchbox to work, would even contemplate voting for a republican. Kinda like wondering how the pyramids were built.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:57 pm to
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top 5% of earners are the biggest beneficiaries of GOP tax policies.


If you understood how the tax code works, then you’d understand how imbecilic this NPC talking point is.

Your “position” if it can be called such, is entirely born out of envy. You are a sad insecure person, a shining example of the Dunning-Krueger effect.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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What? Maybe because they out of principle think taxes should be lowered?

Are we not allowed to be in favor of laws that might not actually benefit us personally?


Then you're a fricking idiot, basically.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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I have never figured out why anyone that gets paid by the hour, or carries a lunchbox to work, would even contemplate voting for a republican


Because the Democrats abandoned them

This ain't your fathers Dem party. This is your hipsterish 20 something urban radical who has never seen a working mans Dem party
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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And this self-employed father probably voted for a Republican governor who passed up Medicaid expansion to his state which, of course, would've saved him a TREMENDOUS amount of money.


$125k in annual income qualifies for Medicaid? Lol okay.

Not to mention. He was perfectly happy with his prior plan. Remember that “you can keep your plan and keep your doctor?”

He got lied to and it nearly wrecked my family at a critical time. So yeah, I completely understand why he refuses to vote for a democrat.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:01 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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mmmmmbeeer


Your posting style hurts my head.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74102 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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mmmmmbeeer
Your entire OP is absurd on face value.

Just because you are not rich does NOT mean you can't out of principle believe that taxes should overall be lower in America.

That is like saying you shouldn't support marijuana legalization if you never actually will consume any.

Or that you shouldn't support civil asset forfeiture reform if you will never be in that position where they will seize your assets.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:58 pm to
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If you understood how the tax code works, then you’d understand how imbecilic this NPC talking point is.



Explain it to me.
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