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Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:31 pm to LSUconvert
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That tends to happen when the alternative is denying bodily autonomy to an entire sex.
How many females bodies are chopped up and discarded via abortion?
Y’all think only males get aborted? What about their bodily autonomy? They didn’t ask the birthing person to spread their legs, that’s a choice they made.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:33 pm to brett408
Once again,
It is their most holy sacrament.
It is their most holy sacrament.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're literally arguing that pregnancy impairs career success and then mocking the fact that people say that it does.
Dude this is pathetic
Ok, I'll throw you a lifeline. When you touted pregnancy as an obstacle to female career success in your fear mongering about Dobbs, you meant that pregnancy leads women to prioritize their families over their careers - is that right?
I mean, it makes no sense given the context, but it'll help you navigate the absurd position you've put yourself in.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:35 pm to Fells
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imposes religious values on people who don't subscribe to them,
So murder is now a religious value?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:36 pm to LSUconvert
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If this truly interests you, there are courses you can take (even at LSU!) that answer this question.
I think it may be a little more work than you're interested in doing, though. Perhaps you'd like to take the word of people who have the education necessary to answer?
Not an answer.
What is life?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:39 pm to Pettifogger
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When you touted pregnancy as an obstacle to female career success in your fear mongering about Dobbs, you meant that pregnancy leads women to prioritize their families over their careers - is that right?
Pregnancy require disproportionate investment by women. It's called parental investment and this is an evolutionary trait.
Forcing women to keep their pregnancies forces them to divert a disproportionate level of resources (compared to the men) towards the child. This directly impairs the ability of that woman to use those resources to develop their economic position.
This is a major reason why abortion is so sacred to professional women.
And, I'll say again, this argument likely doesn't "beat" the morality argument, but it's a valid argument.
*ETA: trying to pretend that your argument isn't about using pressure to increase women performing traditional roles is like leftists claiming the media is neutral.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:41 pm to brett408
Great take! The Dems want abortion clinics to be convenient to everyone who wants to kill a baby. Heaven forbid that a pregnant lady has to travel out of state for her abortion. Abortion services will still be available. Can’t Planned Parenthood provide busses for those who have to go to another state for an abortion?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:42 pm to brett408
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is hard to imagine that people would be so insane and eager to destroy human babies. Is there a greater evil in the world? I am thinking no.
The absolute zeal they have for it is incredible.
I get that they aren’t interested in any form of personal accountability for their own actions and the consequences. The notion that it is her body her choice sounds good, but they always forget or overlook the fact that there is another soul involved. The evil these abortion zealots possess is unparalleled.
We disagree on when something is a human. I don't think a clump of cells is a human baby yet. Certainly not before it's got organs and feelings.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:42 pm to brett408
I am generally in favor of limits on abortion and how late in a term you can get them, but not everyone believes life begins at conception.
There are also ectopic pregnancies that are extremely risky to the mother, and instances
Where relatively early genetic testing might find some th info like Tay-Saches or something like that.
I think Anyone who believe abortion should be allowed for any reason at any time needs to take a loooooong look in the mirror.
There are also ectopic pregnancies that are extremely risky to the mother, and instances
Where relatively early genetic testing might find some th info like Tay-Saches or something like that.
I think Anyone who believe abortion should be allowed for any reason at any time needs to take a loooooong look in the mirror.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:42 pm to fischd1
Planned parenthood buses are nasty.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Forcing women to keep their pregnancies forces them to divert a disproportionate level of resources (compared to the men) towards the child. This directly impairs the ability of that woman to use those resources to develop their economic position.
No one is forcing women to get pregnant.
More women graduate college and more women vote than men. So it seems like they should have no issues here and even have a good chance of making it legal in every state without roe v wade.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:43 pm to dgnx6
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No one is forcing women to get pregnant.
Still usually takes 2 and only one of them has to live with the repercussion
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:44 pm to dgnx6
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No one is forcing women to get pregnant.
Well outside of rapes right.....
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:44 pm to oklahogjr
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Certainly not before it's got organs and feelings
What about 28 days post birth?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:44 pm to SammyTiger
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only one of them has to live with the repercussion
Tell that to the millions of dads paying child support.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:46 pm to dgnx6
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What about 28 days post birth?
I'm ok with limits based on science and development but not based on imaginary things like a soul.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:47 pm to roadGator
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Tell that to the millions of dads paying child support.
I mean There are plenty of dad NOT doing that.
Deal with them everyday.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:48 pm to SammyTiger
Sure. But you said only one person is affected and that is clearly not the case.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:49 pm to oklahogjr
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Well outside of rapes right...
This isn’t the reason most women abort.
But okay. She still has several options and not wait until the baby can survive on its own.
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