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re: Why do liberals get so mad when someone exposes child sex trafficking?

Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:51 pm to
They don't like anyone messing with their "Dollhouse."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:52 pm to
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But we do know that there is a percentage

Yes

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and that the numbers are substantially higher

Not of trafficking. This is your logical leap and strawman.

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My point - KIDS ARE BEING TRAFFICKED AND RAPED

Why do you people always revert to this when your amplification is proven to be unsubstantiated?

Yeah. No shite. We all agreed there is some trafficking of children at the border. Nobody is arguing with you about the fact it's more than 0.

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Your response - yeah, but we don’t know how many, so how can you say its a big deal?

No that's not what I said. I said you constructed a straw man by amplifying the numbers.

I never said it wasn't a big deal. You're lying. Why do you have to resort to lies?

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I never stated or claimed any actual rate,

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I never claimed an actual number,


No, you said this:

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let’s start here

We know that child sex trafficking is prolific at our exposed southern border



"Prolific" is the straw man you have no basis to claim. The rest of your post relies on this amplification.

Hence, straw man.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Instead, we get to deal with this collection of emotional, inbred yahoos.


Ah yes... Hank who says he is simply nicer than everyone, gets together with his autist buddy and shuns the inbred rednecks.

So noble. Sounds like those inbreds really got to you.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15712 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:56 pm to
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but when legitimate trafficking rings are caught, do they get mad about it?


Watch Liberals Protest ICE As The Agency Breaks Up A Child Sex-Trafficking Ring
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27185 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:56 pm to
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However, I do not think the same level of evidence exists that the operations are being carried out specifically as an organized effort within Satanic rituals and doctrine.


You should investigate further. There is plenty of evidence to support the satanic rituals. I wish it wasn't true. But sadly I have personal knowledge that it is.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32155 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:00 pm to
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"Prolific" is the straw man you have no basis to claim. The rest of your post relies on this amplification. Hence, straw man.


bullshite

We know that over 140,000 unaccompanied minors were identified - we also know that a large percentage of them are being used, whether for sex or just straight forced labor

on the sex side, even if it is only 1% - that is 1400 and r more kids being raped

I say that is prolific, but we know that the number is FAR higher than 1400

and that measures to protect kids have been abolished

I’m real comfortable on this side of the argument
Posted by BluestateGeorgia
Member since Jul 2023
110 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:02 pm to
One is prolific to me.
Are you one of the posters who wants Trump voters to vote for Ron because pedo and open border lovers will vote for Ron but not Trump?
Or, am I confusing you with the half dozen or so Ron supporters who think that?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32155 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:03 pm to
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Yeah. No shite. We all agreed there is some trafficking of children at the border. Nobody is arguing with you about the fact it's more than 0.

quote:Your response - yeah, but we don’t know how many, so how can you say its a big deal?

No that's not what I said. I said you constructed a straw man by amplifying the numbers.
you are the one creating a straw man, you are trying to use the fact that the actual percentage is unknown to ignore the real issues - it is happening, our media has fought to ensure it continues and the Biden Admin has forced rules that make it easier to do and harder to stop
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:05 pm to
I dont think those idiots knew it was a child sex ring. They just knew it was ICE and reflexively protested. They are stupid people. They simply saw ICE vehicles from their apartment and went into protest mode.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:07 pm to
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quote: The Q anon attachment drove the soys crazy. they must defend.

Why did you insert that letter into this discussion Rog? Nobody was talking about Q until you brought it up.



Did Rog insert that meme @ the bottom of your post(s)?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:09 pm to
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We know that over 140,000 unaccompanied minors were identified - we also know that a large percentage of them are being used, whether for sex or just straight forced labor


Where is your academic cite for this?

Like I said, the LINK you posted had a cite that was a dead link. Where is the actual academic/scientific work on this?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15712 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:09 pm to
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I dont think those idiots knew it was a child sex ring. They just knew it was ICE and reflexively protested. They are stupid people. They simply saw ICE vehicles from their apartment and went into protest mode.


From the article

Even after neighbors were informed that the raid was about sex-trafficking and not immigration, the ICE-bashing continued,
notes The Federalist. “ICE is not welcome in this country. H.S. is not welcome,” said one neighbor. “I don’t support what they do. I think it is a blasphemy.”
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Because almost every single one of these pedophiles that's gets caught is left/prog and democrat voter.


A lot of the cases I see on social media suggests that the worst perverts come from law enforcement, military, and church leaders. Three demographics that tend to vote R more than D.
I doubt the nuts from Livingston Parish that fed school kids baby batter were left leaning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:10 pm to
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One is prolific to me.

That's fine. That's not what hewas arguing.

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Are you one of the posters who wants Trump voters to vote for Ron because pedo and open border lovers will vote for Ron but not Trump?

I don't support DeSantis anymore, so no.

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Or, am I confusing you with the half dozen or so Ron supporters who think that?

Nobody on this board actually believes what you posted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:10 pm to
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Did Rog insert that meme @ the bottom of your post(s)?

No, but we're not discussing a movie in this thread, either
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:11 pm to
Seems pretty binary to me.

Whether it’s ‘prolific’ or whether it’s not seems tangential.

One either believes such abuses of children are wrong or they believe something else.

This movie, using the same dramatic and poetic licenses used in cinematic story telling since the absolute beginning of the art form, presents a narrative based on facts that illustrates the abuse of children.

One either has a problem with that or they don’t. Those who do deserve caustic scrutiny…
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32155 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:12 pm to
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Like I said, the LINK you posted had a cite that was a dead link. Where is the actual academic/scientific work on this?


So, your response is to ignore the real issue and attack me?

Lovely - here to a something else from my link

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In 2019, the Department of Homeland Security, under the Trump Administration, launched a pilot program that allowed for ICE to DNA test families that were deemed suspicious of fraudulent activity. This program was designed to help prevent minors from being trafficked or recycled, and it resulted in criminal charges for the adults exploiting them. Yet this program was met with great disdain by activist groups and lawmakers and is not being used by the current administration.


and this -

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Sophisticated transnational syndicates are notorious for using children to get single, adult males not just across the border, but through Border Patrol processing. Once these men are granted a stay, they smuggle the children back across the border where they will continue to be trafficked. Studies done by the Latin American branch of the Coalition Against Trafficking In Women estimates that 60% of Latin American children who set out to cross the border alone or with smugglers have been caught by the cartels and are being abused in child pornography or drug trafficking.


so, who is using “straw man” arguments here?

hint - it’s not dcbl
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32155 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:14 pm to
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quote:One is prolific to me.

That's fine. That's not what hewas arguing.


actually, it is one of the points I have been arguing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:19 pm to
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One either believes such abuses of children are wrong or they believe something else.

Everyone on this board believes actual child sex trafficking is wrong. Full stop.

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79465 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Why do liberals get so mad when someone exposes child sex trafficking?


your answer is in the question...
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