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re: Why did we turn over new home construction to immigrant labor?

Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
263 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:01 am to
most Americans, by far, will choose cheap over better. Look at airlines now and what they have become as a result of this way of thinking.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
1138 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:11 am to
Laborers in Honduras make approximately $20 per day. They are making 10x that in the US. Laborers in the US would bust their arse for $2k a day too
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80248 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:13 am to
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They are cheap.


So, capitalism.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16057 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:19 am to
It’s still being done but look into the regulations on that and you’ll quickly see that it’s more trouble than it’s worth for just about all but the large national builders.

Also, through the legal visa work program, it’s fairly easy to “duck out the back” and become “illegal”.


Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6780 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:22 am to
Lower bids, quality, and how long it will take for the project to be finished.

My dad built a 4500 sq ft shop few years ago. My cousins crew poured the floor. A few months later my dad took bids for the shop. A Russian crew had the cheapest bid and a faster time frame when it would be finished. Their bid time was 7 days. The local, Mennonite, and Hispanic crews bids were at least 45 days out and more expensive. The Russians finished framing the shop in 3 days. They subcontracted the Mennonites to put the metal sides and roof on and that took 2 days. They came back the next day and finished the doors, walls, hooked up the water, and finished the electric. The shop was completely done in 6 days.

The Russian foreman came back 3 times in the next year to inspect the building and make sure everything was good.

The local crews bid was about double and would have taken 3 more months. They would have subcontracted the metal roof, water, and electric. The American crews quality could not have been better and they would not have guaranteed their work.

Russians bought the extra material, a car, an old broke down tractor, an old skid steer, a side by side, a fridge, 2 old bikes, and clothes that didn’t sell from a yard sale. My dad didn’t plan on selling most of the stuff, but they bundled it together and offered more than it was worth. They have all kinds of businesses not just construction. They call my dad a few times a year and do business with him and my brother.

Russians do a lot of their construction work with the Amish and Mennonites. A lot of the time there will be Mennonites in their construction crews.

The Russian crew might be from some other Eastern European country, but people call them “The Russians”.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 10:25 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43469 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:39 am to
Let’s not overthink this home building industry. There’s a reason the state of Louisiana allows a homeowner to act as their own GC.

Nobody out there is building grand pianos or splitting the atom.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1870 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:42 am to
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Because in today's market, it doesn't matter if anything is square. It doesn't matter if its strong. The only thing that matters is size and looks.


Freaking nailed it with this point.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4015 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:44 am to
Having immigrant labor is nothing new, especially in the South, South West, and California. This has been going on since the 1980s , with a huge increase in the late 1990s. And roofers are almost exclusively Hispanic.
If we keep deporting or chasing off immigrant laborers, then home construction is going to get really, really expensive. There needs to be a new model of home construction - quality Pre-fab modular units that can be dropped in place and added onto, with i/10 the labor force. I know that there are some high- tech companies that are already offering this, but not enough.
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
756 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:47 am to
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Laborers in Honduras make approximately $20 per day. They are making 10x that in the US. Laborers in the US would bust their arse for $2k a day too


You hit on a key point. If we paid workers what they were actually worth, investment funds would be worthless.

Put all the lawyers and bankers on an island of cannibals, and you'd have a good start.

Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4025 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:48 am to
I am a homebuilder. Approx 25-35 custom houses a year.
If you would like, you can come look and see what they do.
They are legal, some are working toward citizenship.
I pay them well.
They work circles around the local “white” talent.
No dui’s court dates etc.
I’m all for deporting illegals as they make it hard on the legals as well as locals.
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
756 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:53 am to
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Mexicans are some of the best carpenters, brick workers and framers I ever saw. We need more, not less


If you saw my new build, you'd change your mind.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17179 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:25 am to
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It’s still being done but look into the regulations on that and you’ll quickly see that it’s more trouble than it’s worth for just about all but the large national builders. Also, through the legal visa work program, it’s fairly easy to “duck out the back” and become “illegal”.

All of this can be fixed. It wasn’t because they didn’t want it to be.

They want the chaos and instability supplied by the foreign invaders.

They want you to feel helpless and hopeless, so you will cry out for them to do anything, make a new law, to fix it. That’s how our liberties are eroded.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40716 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:30 am to
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but houses today are built stronger than houses in the past (talking 50s-80s here


horseshite
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13643 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:43 am to
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I have seen $1million homes built like crap due to cheap labor.

Where is the builder project manager? It's usually a white guy being paid market rates. On my last build, this dude didn't notice that the fireplace flue sloped downward for a few feet before it went vertical. I'm no construction expert, but that seemed bad, and he didn't catch it. It doesn't matter what the latinos building your house do, or do not, it matters that the builder doesn't give a shite.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14174 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:52 am to
Because dead beats in this country won't work. EBT cards, public housing and welfare.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:59 am to
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horseshite


On average that's absolute fact, at least in Florida. Have a Cat 5 come through and you'll see how much better newer houses do.
Posted by TheDeerHunter
Deer woods
Member since Jun 2025
278 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:19 pm to
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then immigration is likely having a much larger effect on home prices than the money printers going brrrr


You think illegals are taking up
the homes TD posters want to live in?? Yeah, try again.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1626 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:35 pm to
The Mexicans also show up and if you need another worker "they know somebody". And pretty soon all the employees are Mexican. Blacks and whites that used to fill the ranks don't even apply when there is an opening.

I think in many parts of the country things will have to be pretty economically bad and government assistance cut to reverse this.

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129584 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Loss of large US labor supply due to opioid & drug epidemic.


And welfare state
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16911 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:26 pm to
Americans would rather on shite and draw a free.check
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