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re: Why did the SS snipers not take assassin out before he fires?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 am to Eighteen
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 am to Eighteen
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That’s one of the Question we need answered and answered fast (in addition to why that rooftop wasn’t covered in the original security plan)
The Secret Service completely failed today in every way. Trump is only alive because of luck/act of God, all the SS did was do a good of eliminating the threat quickly after the fact…but that’s not their job.
I am sure the SS excuse is going to be something like, "in hindsight, there are things that could have been done differently".
And when they say that I hope the response is that your job is to plan for all contingences and all potential threat areas so hindsight excuses is not going to pass here.
This was an extremely amateur assassination attempt that if it were in a movie script it would ruin the movie. And yet, all the LEO around that area failed to plan for it, failed to plan for a response when people were telling them he was on the roof, failed to protect that facility so close to the event.
So what if more than one person was setting up over their, or someone was planning something much more drastic from that location, all the LEO were unprepared. Definitely heads have to roll from top to bottom because these people were just beat by a 20 year old amateur in the most amateurish assassination attempt.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:16 am
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 am to TigerVespamon
This is how inept the SS was…people were alerting them and he still got shots off. That’s pretty embarrassing.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:08 am to OccamsStubble
The shooter got jack rubyed. Simple as that.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:08 am to Shamoan
Not being able to holster her gun under pressure leads me to believe that she can’t shoot for shite under pressure.
The one that covered his front was too short to provide cover for his head.
There’s a reason they used to have physical requirements.
The 4chubbies SS agent needs fired.
The one that covered his front was too short to provide cover for his head.
There’s a reason they used to have physical requirements.
The 4chubbies SS agent needs fired.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:10 am to IT_Dawg
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I bet they had him in their sights but probably couldnt decide if it was a LOE or just a bystander trying to get a view of the speech. Either way, they fricked up royally by not securing that 1 building roof close to the stage and a LOT of people should be held accountable
This is my thought. It’s Occum’s razor.
Screw up was not securing roof of really the only building in the area. Probably due to incompetence or laziness as Trumps been doing these rallies constantly and nothing happened.
Snipers were trying to confirm target was a threat before smoking some kid and then were startled when shot went off. I’m not ready to call the snipers out until we know more about what happened. If he’d have just shot some random person trying to get a better view all hell would’ve broken loose.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:10 am to TheChosenOne
People. People! Calm down. This is the type of loose talk and malinformation that threatens our democracy. The FBI has arrived and has full control over the investigation into the alleged incident.
Director Wray is monitoring the situation closely under the guidance of the attorney General himself, Merrick Garland. The President is also fully engaged.
Please be patient. The investigations is ongoing. We cannot comment further beyond the fact that Mr. Trump apparently had an significant shaving incident the morning of the incident which may have resulted in a slight bleed above the right ear.
All leads are being followed. No stone will be left unturned. Expect updates throughout the coming days, weeks, months and decades to come.
Director Wray is monitoring the situation closely under the guidance of the attorney General himself, Merrick Garland. The President is also fully engaged.
Please be patient. The investigations is ongoing. We cannot comment further beyond the fact that Mr. Trump apparently had an significant shaving incident the morning of the incident which may have resulted in a slight bleed above the right ear.
All leads are being followed. No stone will be left unturned. Expect updates throughout the coming days, weeks, months and decades to come.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:11 am to TigerVespamon
Watching CBS Sunday Morning and they interviewed a young man who said he was trying for 2-3 minutes to get the rally's security detail to notice/confront the assassin on the roof..... weird.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:12 am to RiverCityTider
Yeah…we’ll never know the full story. Only reason for optimism is PA state PD is investigating murder and injury of other victims so maybe they’ll reveal more than the Feds.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:13 am to TigerVespamon
I heard it explained that they didn’t have a clear line of site on him from that position. They had no target - that’s the claim.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:14 am to OccamsStubble
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If people on the ground could confirm it - they were screaming 'he has a gun' BEFORE the shooting started - then a rifle team on a roof with 32X scopes could have, and should have seen the gun before the shots, and acted.
I really wish some of you would take a few breaths and let your thoughts process. Snipers on a roof right next to cheering crowds and loud speakers aren’t going to hear what people are saying 125 yards away.
The demand for a conspiracy has far surpassed the supply of conspiracy.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:17 am to SquatchDawg
quote:Think about that. Now juxtapose that against the chatter in the earpiece of the SS sniper, "reports of person on the roof of the building with a scoped rifle."
If he’d have just shot some random person trying to get a better view all hell would’ve broken loose.
Training says you react to the reports. As soon as the shooter put that firearm over the top of that roof, shots should have been fired.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:18 am to Lsupimp
quote:So he was taken out by a drone strike?
I heard it explained that they didn’t have a clear line of site on him from that position.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:20 am to Lsupimp
Watch the video of the 2 SS snipers on the roof. They obviously saw him and were aimed right at him for 10-15 seconds before they fired. They did not adjust their guns at all in these seconds. You can see them over Trumps head. They only fired after the assassin took his 7 shots then they took him out! They allowed him to shoot first!
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:20 am to RiverCityTider
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People. People! Calm down. This is the type of loose talk and malinformation that threatens our democracy. The FBI has arrived and has full control over the investigation into the alleged incident.
Director Wray is monitoring the situation closely under the guidance of the attorney General himself, Merrick Garland. The President is also fully engaged.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:20 am to pankReb
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I really wish some of you would take a few breaths and let your thoughts process. Snipers on a roof right next to cheering crowds and loud speakers aren’t going to hear what people are saying 125 yards away.
The demand for a conspiracy has far surpassed the supply of conspiracy.
They are supposed to be trained to watch the crowds and react to their actions. They don't need to hear what they are saying when multiple people are pointing to the roof and acting in a panic manner.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:21 am to The Torch
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DEI Hire "woman" couldn't (or was scared to) make a decision.
I wonder if she was the one that decided it was a good idea to have the 5’2 chick covering the 6’3 Trump’s front during any type of assassination attempt?
As he’s being rushed off stage I couldn’t see one open spot that a second shooter could’ve taken advantage of. That’s was a good call on her part.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:23 am to HubbaBubba
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Training says you react to the reports. As soon as the shooter put that firearm over the top of that roof, shots should have been fired.
Training also says you don’t shoot based off “reports”. “Reports” means you get your eyes on it. The word you’re looking for miss”confirmed”
You don’t want to shoot an idiot spectator trying to watch the rally through binoculars.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:24 am to fwtex
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They are supposed to be trained to watch the crowds and react to their actions. They don't need to hear what they are saying when multiple people are pointing to the roof and acting in a panic manner.
So if I get 10 other people to point at something, they should start shooting no questions asked?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:26 am to pankReb
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I’m guessing they couldn’t confirm that he was holding a gun and wanted that confirmation before smoking an innocent person that might have just been a dipshit trying to get a better view.
Right, the bystanders alerting police, hollering, and pointing out that a man with a gun scaling the roof 3 mins prior to shooting just wasn’t pushed up the chain of command to those snipers for some reason.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:26 am to TigerVespamon
No that they didn’t always for whatever reason have a clear line of sight/clear target prior to the shooting.. The alternative is to believe they had a clear line of fire and had the target in sight and chose to let him get 2 shots off. And that’s what we will be discussing, right?
Listening to Bongino discuss this now.
Listening to Bongino discuss this now.
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