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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:10 am to WeeWee
He's the perfect example of why politicians wont make difficult decisions. It will cost them their job.
When economic growth is dependent on deficit spending and you attempt to reverse that trend you will find yourself in a calculated recession initially. But you will set the path for a better fiscal situation in the out years.
When economic growth is dependent on deficit spending and you attempt to reverse that trend you will find yourself in a calculated recession initially. But you will set the path for a better fiscal situation in the out years.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:11 am to bdavids09
It was a sop to his old buddy from his CIA drug running days. The Bushes and Clinton’s are very very close. All of them went to the same eastern seaboard establishment schools and all are hardcore Machiavellians.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:11 am to bdavids09
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why did George HW bush lose his reelection in 1992?
1) "Read my lips, no new taxes" - a pledge that he did not keep.
2) Ross Perot siphoned off a margin of victory worth of votes.
3) That was the first election wherein the press became really an activist press for the left to an extent that t had meaningful impact.
Bill Clinton was a sacrificial candidate because at the time of his nomination HW's approvals were sky high.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:15 am to bdavids09
Broke his "no new taxes" pledge.
Simple as that.
He holds his ground, Perot likely doesn't get in the race and even if he does, the disaffected Bush voters would not have gone to him.
Simple as that.
He holds his ground, Perot likely doesn't get in the race and even if he does, the disaffected Bush voters would not have gone to him.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:15 am to bdavids09
1.Bush lied about tax increase 2. Ross Perot wanted Clinton to win so he ran as 3rd party candidate to take votes from Bush. 3. The media ran stories every day about the bad economy. Of course, the day after the election the negative stories about the economy stopped. 4. Bush was boring as hell.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
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Perot certainly had an effect on the popular vote totals, but few experts think that he had an effect upon the EV at all.
Then "few experts" are able to do simple math.
States that Clinton won with less than 45% of the vote:
Colorado: Clinton 629,681, Bush+Perot 948,860
Connecticut: Clinton 682,318, Bush+Perot 927,084
Delaware: Clinton 126,054, Bush+Perot 161,526
Georgia: Clinton 1,008,966, Bush+Perot 1,304,909
Iowa: Clinton 586,353, Bush+Perot 758,359
Kentucky: Clinton 665,104, Bush+Perot 821,122
Michigan: Clinton 1,871,182, Bush+Perot 2,379,753
Minnesota: Clinton 1,020,997, Bush+Perot 1,310,347
Missouri: Clinton 1,053,873, Bush+Perot 1,329,900
New Jersey: Clinton 1,436,206, Bush+Perot 1,878,694
Ohio: Clinton 1,984,942, Bush+Perot 2,930,736
Oregon: Clinton 621,314, Bush+Perot 829,848
Washington: Clinton 993,037, Bush+Perot 1,273,014
Wisconsin: Clinton 1,041,066, Bush+Perot 1,475,334
States Clinton won with less than 40% of the vote:
Maine: Clinton 263,420, Bush+Perot 413,324
Montana: Clinton 154,507, Bush+Perot 251,432
Nevada: Clinton 189,148, Bush+Perot 308,408
New Hampshire: Clinton 209,040, Bush+Perot 323,821
Additionally, Clinton only won Arkansas and DC with over 50% of the vote.
If you make the logical assumption that, had Perot not been in the race his voters go 75% Bush and 25% Clinton, you get the following:
Bush - 334
Clinton - 204
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:28 am to bdavids09
ROSS PEROT AND
"READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES"
"READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES"
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:31 am to CGSC Lobotomy
He’ll counter with exit polls showing a closer split, however, Perot took a sledgehammer to bush’s coalition early in the race and when the dust settled, many of those early bush voters now Perot voters preferred Clinton over bush.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:42 am to Sooner5030
Finally someone else who gets it. He actually cared about future Americans and tried to ease our national debt by a reasonable tax raise. It was also possible in theory to cut the military budget but for some reason the U.S has to outspend the next 10 nations combined.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:43 am to Picayuner
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He was more concerned with foreign affairs than that of America. THIS IS THE REASON.
Naw...the reason was the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990....that act created some taxes that would lead to Clinton's budget "surplus".
It lost him a lot of the heavy hitters in the GOP at the time...and some of those folks got Perot in the 92 election and that was all she wrote for HW.
I think history has and will judge HW fairly kindly...can't say the same for his son.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:56 am to bdavids09
-Ross Perot split the vote
-Clinton was an extremely charismatic, center-left, pro-business, Southern Democrat who had broad cross-appeal.
-Nasty recession during election year. "No new taxes" etc. It's the economy stupid.
-Clinton was an extremely charismatic, center-left, pro-business, Southern Democrat who had broad cross-appeal.
-Nasty recession during election year. "No new taxes" etc. It's the economy stupid.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:57 am to bdavids09
He and his team had gotten out of touch. Economy slowed some and Clinton was an energetic candidate.
Ross Perot stole alot of the vote as well. Perot was in the lead at one point before he imploded.
Ross Perot stole alot of the vote as well. Perot was in the lead at one point before he imploded.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:57 am to bdavids09
“Read my lips - no new taxes.”
Then added new taxes.
Then added new taxes.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:The problem with that "logical assumption" is that exit polls show the "second choice" for Perot voters was split between Bush and Clinton almost exactly evenly, not 75:25.
If you make the logical assumption that, had Perot not been in the race his voters go 75% Bush and 25% Clinton, you get the following:
Bush - 334
Clinton - 204
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:18 am to bdavids09
I voted for Ross Perot...he was a better option!
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:19 am to bdavids09
He was a spineless puss - that's why.
He had promised No New Taxes then signed a Democrat tax bill instead of vetoing it to make the Dems own it.
Also, Ross Perot pulled just enough votes away to give the election to Clinton.
Ever since then, Republicans have mistakenly thought that going along to get along is a winning strategy.
He had promised No New Taxes then signed a Democrat tax bill instead of vetoing it to make the Dems own it.
Also, Ross Perot pulled just enough votes away to give the election to Clinton.
Ever since then, Republicans have mistakenly thought that going along to get along is a winning strategy.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:43 am to the808bass
quote:
“Read my lips - no new taxes.” Then added new taxes.
It was a dumb pledge, but the voters were even dumber by voting for a Dem - who then proceeded to raise taxes more than they ever had been up to that point.
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