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re: Why did Flynn deliberately lie to the FBI?
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:17 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:17 pm to Navytiger74
I could make a great life married to her. I think we'd both be quite happy.
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:24 pm to LSURussian
quote:Being a senior uniformed officer in DoD is nothing like being a member of a candidate's personal inner circle and then a president's Senior Staff. Nothing like it, tbh. The vetting process is entirely different. The responsibilities are different. The level of access to the oval is different (obviously).
Apparently you don't want anyone to remember that Flynn worked with the Obama administration for double the length of time than he worked with the Trump team....
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:26 pm to Navytiger74
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Honestly we're still there, because the meetings in late December offer insight into an ongoing relationship between the Trump campaign and foreign entities.
I disagree slightly with your earlier post where you said that it's about the Russian relationship rather than about money. (At least that's how I interpreted it.)
I think this is a big part of relating the two; I think that ultimately, the entire Russian adventure for the Trump organization was triggered and driven by money -- 'dirty' money from rotten people -- and I suspect that will come out eventually.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:34 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Of course.
Being a senior uniformed officer in DoD is nothing like being a member of a candidate's personal inner circle
But then Obama knew enough about Flynn's work in his administration to advise the Trump team not to include Flynn in the Trump administration.
So it's not like Flynn was some anonymous "uniformed officer" when Obama was President.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:49 pm to CAD703X
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ESTABLISHMENT
Bingo. America under the leadership of Donald J. Trump cannot be allowed to succeed. Why? Take a look at what is happening in Europe and a fragile EU that is threatening to fracture following BREXIT. The most terrifying word for the globalist is "economic and social nationalism". Nationalism is the kiss of death for those who seek to gather everyone under one world order. For the last eight years, even going back to the Bush I & II administrations we've seen efforts to move America under the umbrella of a globalist utopia. It is driven partly by the need for cheap labor (or any labor for that matter) by industrialized western countries. It's all about open borders and the uncontrolled movement of a labor pool that "multi-national" corporations can exploit. Nationalism is about protectionism and maintaining a decent wage and standard of living for citizens within a country.
Like I said a Donald J. Trump Presidency cannot be allowed to succeed. He must be destroyed. By success I mean a vibrant, dynamic economy that gives citizens choice.
Make no mistake about it, this is what is driving the Robert Mueller witchhunt? Get Donald Trump and get him now, before his success dooms the globalist aspirations.
Think about it!
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:50 pm to GumboPot
Why does anyone ever lie? To cover something up.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:37 pm to mmcgrath
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Remember Comey said Flynn did not make a false statement.
Honest question: When was This?
Never happened. You can look at the text of Comey's testimony right here. He was clear about his belief that Flynn was in legal jeopardy, and declined several times to testify more about the nature of the Flynn investigation in "an open setting."
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BURR: Director, when the president requested that you, and I quote "Let Flynn go," General Flynn had an unreported contact with the Russians, which is an offense, and if press accounts are right, there might have been discrepancies between facts and his FBI testimony. In your estimation, was general Flynn at that time in serious legal jeopardy, and in addition to that, do you sense that the president was trying to obstruct justice or just seek for a way for Mike Flynn to save face, given that he had already been fired?
COMEY: General Flynn at that point in time was in legal jeopardy. There was an open FBI criminal investigation of his statements in connection with the Russian contacts, and the contacts themselves, and so that was my assessment at the time. ...
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COTTON: You stated earlier that there was an open investigation of Mr. Flynn and the FBI. Did you or any FBI agent ever sense that Mr. Flynn attempted to deceive you or make false states to an FBI agent?
COMEY: I don't want to go too far. That was the subject of the criminal inquiry.
COTTON: Did you ever come close to closing the investigation on Mr. Flynn?
COMEY: I don't think I can talk about that in open setting either.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:52 pm to GeorgePaton
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Think about it!
I agree and everything you point out here causes great and deep concern for me. Much of what you point out here is irrefutable.
I have read up just a bit on the UN and its aspirations and there is no doubt at all that a form of Global Governance is one of its main objectives. A secondary objective is to impose a Global regulatory and international legal regime that will enforce standards for a Sustainable Global Environment (to include less CO2 in the atmosphere).
There is no doubt that, for these folks, "Nationalism" is a 19th Century ideal that must be phased out in the 21st Century and has NO place at all in the 22nd Century.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:30 pm to GumboPot
Obama admin knew he was dirty. Trump was warned and didn’t listen. They allowed Flynn to pick his own position because he had been loyal to Trump during the election.
He lied because he was loyal to Trump and thought the scandal would blow over.
Comey was like a bloodhound on Flynn and it is Trumps and his admins fault they didn’t take the warning from Obama admin. They didn’t listen because they didn’t trust Obama.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about Trump or Obama it was a mistake to hire Flynn.
He lied because he was loyal to Trump and thought the scandal would blow over.
Comey was like a bloodhound on Flynn and it is Trumps and his admins fault they didn’t take the warning from Obama admin. They didn’t listen because they didn’t trust Obama.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about Trump or Obama it was a mistake to hire Flynn.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 3:27 am to Navytiger74
Do you happen to know what the reason was for the FBI even interviewing him in the first place?? They already had the transcripts of his calls with Kislyak... because if you’ll recall, he’s one of the campaign associates that was “unmasked” under questionable circumstances. And Flynn undoubtedly knew that those calls were being recorded- he is a spook after all.
So they had the transcripts from the December calls.. Pence’s interview denying any contact was on January 15th, inauguration on 20th and then on January 24th, the FBI suddenly needs to interrogate Flynn with questions they already know the answer to. Almost sounds like a setup.. Do you think that Flynn, with his background in intel, didn’t know what was going on?!
So they had the transcripts from the December calls.. Pence’s interview denying any contact was on January 15th, inauguration on 20th and then on January 24th, the FBI suddenly needs to interrogate Flynn with questions they already know the answer to. Almost sounds like a setup.. Do you think that Flynn, with his background in intel, didn’t know what was going on?!
Posted on 12/3/17 at 3:52 am to MizzouBS
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According to what Flynn had stated in one final interview as DIA director, he felt like a lone voice in thinking that the United States was less safe from the threat of Islamic terrorism in 2014 than it was prior to the 9/11 attacks; he went on to believe that he was pressed into retirement for questioning the Obama administration's public narrative that Al Qaeda was close to defeat.[34] Journalist Seymour Hersh wrote that "Flynn confirmed [to Hersh] that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings ... about the dire consequences of toppling [Syrian President] Assad." Flynn recounted that his agency was producing intelligence reports indicating that radical Islamists were the main force in the Syrian insurgency and "that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria". According to Flynn, these reports "got enormous pushback from the Obama administration," who he felt "did not want to hear the truth". According to former DIA official W. Patrick Lang: "Flynn incurred the wrath of the White House by insisting on telling the truth about Syria ... they shoved him out. He wouldn't shut up."[35] In an interview with Al Jazeera, Flynn criticized the Obama administration for its delay in supporting the opposition in Syria, thereby allowing for the growth of Al Nusra and other extremist forces: "when you don't get in and help somebody, they're gonna find other means to achieve their goals" and that "we should have done more earlier on in this effort, you know, than we did."[36]
Color me shocked that Hussein considered Flynn “dirty.” He objected to Barry’s lies to the American people and tried to get the truth out. How dare he.
The TRUTH is Obama knew Flynn had dirt on him and that if Trump gave him a position, Flynn would have the ability to expose it.
The notion that Obama would have a concern about someone being “dirty” is downright laughable. He gave Hillary Rodham Clinton one of the most powerful positions in the world, for fricks sake. When in doubt, the easiest rule to judge by is if Obama didn’t like them, it is safe to assume they’re probably a good person, a patriot who simply wants what’s best for this country.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 3:53 am to CheniereTiger108
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Do you happen to know what the reason was for the FBI even interviewing him in the first place??
Wasn’t this done through Comey? Isn’t it generally accepted protocol for them to be present?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:00 am to CheniereTiger108
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When in doubt, the easiest rule to judge by is if Obama didn’t like them, it is safe to assume they’re probably a good person, a patriot who simply wants what’s best for this country.
I can think of no better rule of thumb for instant analysis of any political situation that that /\
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:23 am to CAD703X
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All I can think is because everyone was freaking out about anything to do with Russia he was scared to mention he was instructed to reach out to them as part of the transition.
This has always been my read on it and it's what Trump was saying with his latest tweets.
Good post by OP - there could be something deeper there but I don't know if Flynn would willingly sacrifice his reputation and livelihood this way.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:13 am to SirWinston
Man these trumpsuckers go to great lengths to defend anything and everything about this sad administration. Think about this, the only reason Mueller is involved is simply because trump and his JV team are not only inept, but also corrupt. Nothing less nothing more. tRump has been a silver spoon walking worm his entire adult life, yet you poors go to great lengths to defend the indefensible simply because he ran as an R. If he had won the election as a D, and performed the same stupid shite, you fricktards would be going apeshit.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:26 am to GumboPot
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Why did Flynn deliberately lie to the FBI?
Because it was politically unseemly for a new Administration to be undermining the Policy (trumped-up Sanctions, based on a false Dossier) of the current Obama one. Especially since Obama's corrupted FBI "wiretapped" Trump's Campaign.
Truth be told, it would be utterly irresponsible for an incoming Administration NOT to get out ahead and try to turn things around.
Meuller/Prog Deep State is going DOWN. There won't be enough cred left in that *Investigation* to make gravy with.
And with McMaster saying that "the US is closer to war every day" with Fatboy! Outrageous. 
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:28 am to GumboPot
Setting up the trump spin! Bravo gumbo!!! 
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:36 am to RCDfan1950
Spin away. Two have already admitted to lying with more to come. The only one that won't admit he's the main liar is small hands herself. And that is simply because he's pathological.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:42 am to KoachKletus
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Man these trumpsuckers go to great lengths to defend anything and everything about this sad administration. Think about this, the only reason Mueller is involved is simply because trump and his JV team are not only inept, but also corrupt. Nothing less nothing more. tRump has been a silver spoon walking worm his entire adult life, yet you poors go to great lengths to defend the indefensible simply because he ran as an R. If he had won the election as a D, and performed the same stupid shite, you fricktards would be going apeshit.
So lazy and trite. If you are going to melt so hard, at least be creative.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:46 am to KoachKletus
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If he had won the election as a D, and performed the same stupid shite, you fricktards would be going apeshit.
Then you would be lapping up the "vomit" you accuse us of enjoying. That was a pretty weak argument by you btw.
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