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re: Why did Flynn deliberately lie to the FBI?

Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:23 am to
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the Martha Stewart charge


Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:23 am to
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There were no multiple interviews
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I know for a fact he was interviewed many more times that subsequent to his testimony on 24 January.
Make up your mind.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:28 am to
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Make up your mind.
Look up "subsequent to." I did leave out a "than" between times and that.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:35 am to
So was he questioned only once by the FBI/DoJ or "many more times"?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:42 am to
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So was he questioned only once by the FBI/DoJ or "many more times"?
At the time he lied, it was his first interview. He had no reason to be confused about prior testimony on the matter. He had many other interviews subsequent to that. That means after that first interview in which he had no reason to be confused.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:56 am to
I think it would be wise for us to keep open the possibility that clever interrogation tactics were able to generate an inconsistency in the target's statements.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:57 am to
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At the time he lied, it was his first interview. He had no reason to be confused about prior testimony on the matter. He had many other interviews subsequent to that. That means after that first interview in which he had no reason to be confused.
So how do you know what he told the FBI the first time versus the SUBSEQUENT times? Plus, he'd already told VP Pence something about his Russian conversation so how do you know his first interview with the FBI wasn't an attempt to obfuscate or at least to support what he'd already told the VP?

I've worked with a habitual liar who lied just to make people think he was really important. My first reply to the OP in this thread reflects that experience.

If you don't agree, that's fine because it's just my opinion and I could be wrong, but your butthurt attempt to find a "gotcha" on me is childish, confirming my earlier post about you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:58 am to
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I think it would be wise for us to keep open the possibility that clever interrogation tactics were able to generate an inconsistency in the target's statements.
This is also a good possibility.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:00 pm to
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He had many other interviews subsequent to that. That means after that first interview in which he had no reason to be confused.


Thanks for the input because many times, you follow events more closely than do I, and you are able to fill in the story for me.

But keep in mind that the target was interviewed "many" times. That's how it's done.

This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:02 pm to
There are only two correct responses to any question put to you by the FBI. "I cannot recall at this time" or "nunya".
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:02 pm to
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I think it would be wise for us to keep open the possibility that clever interrogation tactics were able to generate an inconsistency in the target's statements.
Has to be someone else's deception and trickery?

Because the Trump admin is so honest, it must be the others.

Come on, man.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:05 pm to
flynn is an honorable guy and he was trying to cover up what he did for obama because in the military you dont rat out your boss and at the time, obama was giving the orders.

he was trying to avoid this very circus he felt would be about obama. im sure he never thought it would ever be about trump since it was so clear all the collusion with russia was done by hillary and obama.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:05 pm to
I dont think he did. He didnt even have a lawyer present

This is setting something big up. Probably the Great Melt of all time
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:06 pm to
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I dont think he did.
Even worse news, then, that he pleaded to it
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Has to be someone else's deception and trickery?

Because the Trump admin is so honest, it must be the others.
Apparently you don't want anyone to remember that Flynn worked with the Obama administration for double the length of time than he worked with the Trump team....
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Even worse news, then, that he pleaded to it


Lets bump that thread then cause its getting close
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:13 pm to
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So how do you know what he told the FBI the first time versus the SUBSEQUENT times?
It was in his sworn statement.
Posted by NikeShox
Toula Baw
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:14 pm to
Because you can? I guess
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Has to be someone else's deception and trickery? Because the Trump admin is so honest, it must be the others. Come on, man.


I certainly have an open mind WRT to at some point concluding that Flynn is a deceptive liar. That would be very odd to me because in my military experience, the US Army does a good job of weeding out Officers who are liars. I'll bet that the Navy and USMC are the same.

So, I would never vouch for some kind of inherent honesty WRT any civilian politician or businessperson. The military professional world weeds out the Liars. The civilian world does not.

So I would never say that POTUS Trump or any other civilian was "brought up" or "raised" in a career field that weeds out Liars and rewards the truthful.

Many say that Trump is a Liar. I don't think I agree. But I do know that Trump was "raised" in a professional world and field totally different than me. I would be bad in his world and he probably would not have been a very successful Army Officer.

This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45726 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:17 pm to
I would be on death row for all my lies to my wife if this is the standard these days.
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