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Why can’t U.S. car manufacturers, make some cars without chips?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:13 am
I don’t really know if this is still possible, or how expensive it would be to retrofit the manufacturing process, but couldn’t some cars be made without chips like the old days.
I know personally, I’d prefer a more simple vehicle, especially for work, that didn’t cost thousands to fix when it broke.
I know personally, I’d prefer a more simple vehicle, especially for work, that didn’t cost thousands to fix when it broke.
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:14 am to Revelator
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:14 am to Revelator
Because vehicles have 142 sensors these days due to the constant Political drive for emissions monitoring.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:14 am to Revelator
I hope the manufacturers feel the pain. They caused this by shipping their supply and assembly chains overseas.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:19 am to Revelator
Because we have regulated and litigated ourself to death with all the added safety/efficiency features that require computing.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:19 am to Revelator
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I don’t really know if this is still possible, or how expensive it would be to retrofit the manufacturing process, but couldn’t some cars be made without chips like the old days.
I know personally, I’d prefer a more simple vehicle, especially for work, that didn’t cost thousands to fix when it broke.
I'd prefer that on pretty much anything that runs, including tractors and equipment but we let them dictate this shite and now we are stuck with it...
Luckily I still have an old truck, an old jeep, and a couple of older tractors that I can work on... The increasing issue is finding parts...
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:20 am to Revelator
Emissions control, airbags, squeezing horsepower out of undersized engines, braking, auto sensory because people can't drive or use mirrors. They have been putting chips or Microcomputers in cars at least 40 years.
You think this is bad. Autonomous self driving vehicles is the worst idea ever. Hackers field day.
You think this is bad. Autonomous self driving vehicles is the worst idea ever. Hackers field day.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:22 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:20 am to Revelator
So you want a shittier car?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:23 am to Indefatigable
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They caused this by shipping their supply and assembly chains overseas.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
The truth is it takes billions of dollars to build a chip manufacturing facility and that facility will be out of date in about five years; billions more are required to revamp the process over and over again. So these companies flee (or only cultivate) to places where the area government is friendly to them: tax advantages, lower employee costs, fewer environmental/regulatory restrictions, minimal union involvement, etc. This has left us with only three major companies in the game and intel is the only such US company. Intel has stated that rising costs have forced them to start outsourcing some of their manufacturing to TSMC out of Taiwan.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:25 am to Powerman
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So you want a shittier car?
I want a '84 Chevy Suburban with 0 miles on the odometer.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:25 am to Powerman
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So you want a shittier car?
No, a simpler car. They used to make cars that the average man with a little skill could work on. And that wasn’t a lifetime ago.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:26 am to Revelator
They are. Ford is loading up Kentucky Speedway with Vehicles. GMC is now having to order vehicles without sensors
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:26 am to Indefatigable
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I hope the manufacturers feel the pain. They caused this by shipping their supply and assembly chains overseas.
I can’t believe I am agreeing with Indefatigable, but this is truth.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:27 am to Revelator
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Why can’t U.S. car manufacturers, make some cars without chips?
Here's your answer:
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I know personally, I’d prefer a more simple vehicle, especially for work, that didn’t cost thousands to fix when it broke.
They are making bank on the repairs, by getting the automobiles back to the shop.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:28 am to Powerman
Drive my 66 GOAT one time then come back and tell me how much shittier it is than your KIA 
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:30 am to SG_Geaux
Wat? If the car plants were able to retrofit to make ventilators during the covid, why not make cars without chips or cars with significantly reduced chips?
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:31 am to Revelator
Survivalists would love this.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:34 am to Revelator
CAFE standards.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:35 am to Revelator
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why not make cars without chips or cars with significantly reduced chips?
They can't because of the emissions and safety standards that have been imposed on them by the government...
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:35 am to Revelator
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I know personally, I’d prefer a more simple vehicle, especially for work, that didn’t cost thousands to fix when it broke.
But then you wouldnt be forced to go to them for every little repair
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ncluding tractors and equipment
Farmers have been suing for years now just for the right to work on their tractors. Pay 6 figures for them and then have to call the company for every little repair as a much higher cost.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:39 am
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