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re: Why aren’t anti abortion adopting children

Posted on 6/28/22 at 3:14 am to
Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 3:14 am to
Liberals are always expecting someone to pay for their bad life choices.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138638 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:31 am to
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I value the life of children and care for my own. I expect others to do the same.
Well ....



Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11095 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 4:35 am to
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the cheapest adoption cost was $40k


This is infuriating when I think of all the hundreds of billions the govt wastes or gives away.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27760 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:03 am to
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They have intentionally made adoption almost impossible. The are 36 sets of parents waiting/trying to adopt for every child in us that actually gets adopted


Is this stat accurate? That’s really heartbreaking.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46345 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:21 am to
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For a lot they would, but it can be very expensive and the barriers high.


I adopted, as well. My sister handles foster placement in Texas. Adoption isn’t easy or cheap.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:35 am to
We support a spay and neuter program
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 5:53 am to
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My sister handles foster placement in Texas. Adoption isn’t easy or cheap


Is it fixable though? States that go no on abortion need to make sure they fix their adoption laws/processes.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46345 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:06 am to
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Is it fixable though? States that go no on abortion need to make sure they fix their adoption laws/processes.


Gah, I could write an entire book on this topic and not completely cover all the issues.

Is it fixable? I’m not sure. I go back and forth on the benefits of the current foster placement system vs orphanages. Teen group homes are a disaster for the most part.

Not enough of the right people (not just in it for the money) foster and we do a horrible job of promoting child fostering. A good PR campaign would do a world of good.

Many people are scared away by the emotional and financial gamble of fostering and adopting in the US. Parental and familial rights mean that an adoption can be stopped years into the process simply bc a relative who’s never met the child decides they want custody. Hard to not understand that but what about the couple who’s fallen in love and cared for the child up to that point? Not to mention the financial and time commitment they’ve made.

I could go on and on but I’ve only had 1 cup of coffee this morning. There are several other parents who’ve adopted and fostered on this board. I hope they will chime in and add to my post. We also have several posters here who were adopted and at least one I know who was in the foster system for a bit.

For several years after our adoption, I mentored other couples who were going through the adoption process both locally and internationally. The number of 3:00 am phone calls I took with heartbroken and sobbing parents who’s dreams were shattered - many nit for the first time - was daunting. Fostering and adoption needs to be advertised, fully supported and financially supplemented.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:06 am to
You can do a state by state list of children available for adoption in the US. Looking at it (and having experienced it) their is a waiting list for 3 and under. The idea that the foster care system is overburdened with new borns is absurd.

Now the foster system is way overstretched, but it’s with kids that generally have a mother that’s a drug addict. And generally the system has to force them to give up their rights because they can’t get clean long enough to raise a child. This is a driver for my opinion that we need to actually get tough on the “war on drugs”. My daughter was the youngest of 3 (that I know of) that a woman had but chose drugs over motherhood. 2 were adopted together in Ohio, and my daughter was adopted in Georgia 5 years later. I’m guessing she had another child in Texas that went into the system but I can’t verify it. If you want to fix foster care, fix the drug problem.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46345 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:07 am to
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States that go no on abortion need to make sure they fix their adoption laws/processes.


The issues aren’t just with state laws. The are incredible federal hurdles to overcome.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46345 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:14 am to
This brings up a whole other major issue. Many, MANY children in the foster system aren’t actually available for adoption. They’ve been taken from parents who aren’t capable of providing them with adequate care due to drugs, prison sentences, homelessness etc) but they are expected to be returned to the birth family when they are capable of providing care.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59877 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:52 am to
There are plenty of couples wanting to adopt, but the system sucks and should be reformed.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:55 am to
Tell you what we should do. The federal government should start offering cash rewards for storks. That will put an end to these unwanted pregnancies.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:56 am to
It's stupid because religious households are also insanely involved in the foster care system.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:58 am to
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This brings up a whole other major issue. Many, MANY children in the foster system aren’t actually available for adoption. They’ve been taken from parents who aren’t capable of providing them with adequate care due to drugs, prison sentences, homelessness etc) but they are expected to be returned to the birth family when they are capable of providing care.


This. My sister had two young foster kids for over a year and one for about two and eventually had to give them up. I will give the mom credit, she did apparently clean up her act and get right.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16165 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:05 am to
Yeah the Pro-Choice crowd trying use this as some kind of “gotcha” and then pat themselves on back like they just hit you with some kind of zinger are pretty dumb.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:24 am to
I am pro life and have raised several kids who were abandoned by their parents. Adoption was not possible under the circumstances but I cared for them as if they were my own.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56838 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:05 am to
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Only cheap option was state adoptions and you have no idea of your going to get a baby of a crackhead


babies of crackheads need adopting too....
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6741 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:11 am to
They are. I've adopted 2 and am an ardent pro-lifer.
The problem with adoption is that it costs $40-50k. Those prices might come down now, which would be great.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:12 am to
A lot of us are, currently I have two foster kids and assuming their bio folks don't get their lives together, we'll be adopting come January. I'm certainly not saying everyone has to do it but it is going to be a greater need in the near future
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 8:43 am
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