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re: Why are we afraid of Democratic Socialism?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:44 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:44 pm to Taxing Authority
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All establishes players. You were talking about barriers to entry.
I'd have to investigate how many German companies have healthcare plans and how they developed. The US situation developed because of its very specific history, hence why we have far more medical disciplines than other countries.
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Secondly, you might want to have a look at financials and salaries of those before you conclude “non-profit” means “no money”.
I know what non-profit means.
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Go ahead. We can laugh at you.
Insurance companies are funding medical innovations? I'm sure they are interested in innovations that help their bottom line, but I was speaking about medical innovations specifically, hence why I spoke about biotech companies in the next line. By far the biggest funder of research in the US are biotech companies at 52 percent, and then the federal government at 22 percent, with universities, medical technology companies and healthcare service company at around 6% each.
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:44 pm to HT713
Amazon infinitely supports more people, the economy, and provides far more economical benefits than you will in 1000 lifetimes.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to Taxing Authority
I see a lot of emotional arguments in this thread, but I haven't seen a single answer to the most important question.
Why do you get to take my property from me? What authority? Who decides?
My profits are no different from my house, or my car, or my wardrobe. What authority gives you the right to take any of those?
Why do you get to take my property from me? What authority? Who decides?
My profits are no different from my house, or my car, or my wardrobe. What authority gives you the right to take any of those?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to HT713
quote:Have you looked at their tax returns? What is their “fair share”? How do you come up with that number?
the reason it matters to people like me is because we don't think it's right that they don't pay their fair share.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to DimTigerDontHate
Can you show me where it has worked
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:46 pm to DimTigerDontHate
Because there is no such thing as democratic socialism.
Its just lipstick on a pig.
Its just lipstick on a pig.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:46 pm to HT713
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I legit paid more in federal income tax last year than amazon did source
good grief. 
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:47 pm to LSUconvert
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but when you just misinterpret (whether you mean to or not) what I'm saying it makes it impossible.
Ok. Then explain exactly what you mean by:
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This is just having an incomplete view of how the uber rich benefit from the infrastructure of society (this infrastructure is paid for by taxes).
They cannot obtain their insane wealth without it.
What infrastructure? Be specific. Does any of this infrastructure come free?
Is any of that infrastructure reserved for the "uber-rich" only?
Be sure to account for the fact the "uber-rich" also pay taxes ( and far more than their fair share) for that infrastructure as well.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:48 pm to DimTigerDontHate
I would be on board for getting rid of all public libraries and schools.
In that case I wouldn’t have to pay property taxes every year my entire life on items I do not use.
Let there be vouchers for kids who can’t afford school and only pay while your kids are in school
In the long run a tax payer would come out way ahead and it would be one less government run entity to frick up.
In that case I wouldn’t have to pay property taxes every year my entire life on items I do not use.
Let there be vouchers for kids who can’t afford school and only pay while your kids are in school
In the long run a tax payer would come out way ahead and it would be one less government run entity to frick up.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:48 pm to LSUconvert
quote:Yet another one that doesn’t understand what a public good is.
This is just having an incomplete view of how the uber rich benefit from the infrastructure of society (this infrastructure is paid for by taxes).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:49 pm to LSUconvert
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LSUconvert
I want you to know.....
I’m laughing AT you. Not with you.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:50 pm to Centinel
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What infrastructure? Be specific. Does any of this infrastructure come free?
It is paid for by taxpayers, which is something that I already said. Again, please read what I write instead of just imagining the words you want to.
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Be sure to account for the fact the "uber-rich" also pay taxes for that infrastructure as well.
Totally accounted for! Hypothetically, let's say you believe that the infrastructure is what made the entirety of their wealth possible. What amount of taxes is them paying their "fair share"?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:51 pm to Taxing Authority
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Yet another one that doesn’t understand what a public good is.
Sounds like some socialist BS to me.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:51 pm to Taxing Authority
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1/ how did you arrive at that number?
He pulled it out of his fourth point of contact.
He would have no more support for that arbitrarily selected number as AOC would if she said $1 billion, or Bernie who is probably upset with anyone in the 8 figures.
Capitalism is going to produce winners and losers. Some folks are going to win big. We want that. Why? We want the folks who produce the innovative, better, cheaper to do well.
It is not trickle down, regardless of how they want to frame it. It is a rising tide lifts all boats. And it does.
They are pursuing the opposite - pull the stopper out so the tide goes down and everyone is equally miserable (except the political elite, of course).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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Third Way policies, enacted by Labour in the UK, have been incredibly popular where they've been enacted.
Why are you here and not there if it's so perfect? You do have a choice you know.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:52 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Why would government be interested in this any more than an insurance company. For the government (remember they also have SS to pay for) the sooner you die, the less they have to pay.
I'm sure they are interested in innovations that help their bottom line, but I was speaking about medical innovations specifically, hence why I spoke about biotech companies in the next line.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:54 pm to LSUconvert
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Care to explain this?
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no such thing a democratic socialism
No. You explain to me the difference. How can you compare two things you think are exactly the same? Explain how reverse racism and racism are different. You can’t.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:54 pm to LSUconvert
quote:Thanks for confirming your ignorance.
Yet another one that doesn’t understand what a public good is.
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Sounds like some socialist BS to me.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:55 pm to Janky
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Yes, the "you didn't build that" argument has finally made an appearance!
It undercuts his own talking point. The current
infrastructure was paid almost entirely by rich people and their businesses at both federal and state and local level, but you're never going to win this battle. These people have their envy radar locked on and aren't going to agree with you.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:56 pm to HT713
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the reason it matters to people like me is because we don't think it's right that they don't pay their fair share. I legit paid more in federal income tax last year than amazon did source
Do you pay your fair share ?
47% of this country pays ZERO Federal Income Taxes.
When are they going to PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE ?
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