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re: Why are the poli board's leftards so upset over drug runners being blown up?

Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15870 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:14 pm to
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Honestly, you people sound like Dems. "If it saves just one life ...."


Except 100,000’s of Americans die every year from overdoses
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8130 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:19 pm to
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There it is. Yet you fall for it again!


I'm not falling for anything. I phrased it that way to express skepticism.

Again, it's the non-denials by Leavitt and Hegseth. YOU don't seem to think killing survivors would be unlawful. Now you're suggesting that the manual could have been changed.

None of us has adequate information to KNOW what happened. Applying heuristics, my leaning is that the order WAS giving, but that those involved didn't think it illegal.

What's your current assessment? Didn't happen or did happen, but it's not illegal.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
961 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:21 pm to
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The manual that on page one says the DOD can revise its stance at any time?


So you are not going to believe this but they updated the manual! Here it is, updated July 2023

LINK

It is still there.

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18.3.2.1 Clearly Illegal Orders to Commit Law of War Violations. The requirement to refuse to comply with orders to commit law of war violations applies to orders to perform conduct that is clearly illegal or orders that the subordinate knows, in fact, are illegal. For example, orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal.


Trump really needs to get around to updating this.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31648 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Neither did Decatur. Neither did you. Page one destroys his entire “argument.”


That's the title page, baw.

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He is also assuming the source less allegation is a fact.


Right now I know that the government has admitted to both strikes. I think we'll be seeing a bipartisan investigation to get a better understanding of the facts.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8130 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Did Obama commit felony murder when he droned US citizens? This should be good.



I only know of the one US citizen, the teenager, who Obama killed. Absolutely, felony murder.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1571 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:22 pm to
And we are indirectly fighting the Chinese. Anyone who doesn't believe that China is involved with these failed narco-states to push this into our country is not paying attention or is rooting for the chinese.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31648 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:22 pm to
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So you are not going to believe this but they updated the manual! Here it is, updated July 2023


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It is still there.


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41916 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:24 pm to
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it' just sparkling felony murder.


Are you referring to Obama droning US citizens?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56638 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:25 pm to
Still waiting on the statute. I asked for the law violated. You fail to provide one. And again….this is making the huge leap that the sourceless allegation is true. Yall don’t have a great track record with those. So before you start your victory lap…why don’t you try again to provide a law.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56638 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:26 pm to
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That's the title page, baw.


Wrong. It is page one of the manual. Follows the title page and the table of contents and definitions. Page one is precisely what I described.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56638 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Trump really needs to get around to updating this.


Still not a law. Still assumes the sourceless allegations are true. Also assumes that it was shipwrecked. LOTS of assumptions. What’s y’all’s track record when believing sourceless allegations are true? When will you learn to stop being so gullible.


I’m willing to learn, though. The first step is to cite the actual law…not an example in a manual. Once we find the law we can evaluate the elements against the allegations. Then we need to substantiate the allegations.


How much you want to bet this all falls apart and in three weeks yall will be melting over something else?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295280 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:30 pm to
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Anyone who doesn't believe that China is involved with these failed narco-states to push this into our country


Fentanyl has chemicals that come from China, processed in Mexico, imported by Americans.

I dont see what Venezuela has to do with it. If we want to go after the source, that aint it.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3139 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:31 pm to
Ok Hank
Posted by PaulDrake
L.A. & Bayou Pa Pon
Member since Feb 2023
652 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:31 pm to
Any drug runner willing to get in a boat and run drugs now has to be insane.

How do they find these people?


Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31648 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:33 pm to
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Still waiting on the statute. I asked for the law violated.


I didn't see your edit. It would seem to me this could implicate the federal murder statute but I don't know how they'd handle a court martial should the facts call for it.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4618 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:33 pm to
Better question is why are they so against Trump deporting criminals who broke our immigration laws and drove their costs up?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295280 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:33 pm to
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How do they find these people?



Its pretty easy. When there is no employment outside fishing, someone dangling real money will get a lot of risk takers.

Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1571 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:35 pm to
Are you chinese?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31648 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Wrong. It is page one of the manual. Follows the title page and the table of contents and definitions. Page one is precisely what I described.


Again, the title page is literally numbered "1". Why do you waste my time?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295280 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Are you chinese?


Are you?
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