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re: Why are so many people broke by the time they reach senior adulthood?

Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5986 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:49 am to
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All of them are married.

Another huge issue.

59% of over 65s are married.

15% are divorced.
That 15% opened a can of whoop arse on their retirement plans.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:50 am to
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You really think that the “youth don’t want to work” and that they’re just jealous of all the “hard work” boomers put in?
Nope. Youth dont want to put in the years of work necessary to reap the rewards that they are currently jealous of




Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73172 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:50 am to
Those of you in this thread who are bringing up health stuff have a point, but the reality is that it is a small portion of the population and statistically speaking, it’s rare for a health issue to knock you out before retirement.

Health issues do not explain the sheer amount of retirees who exclusively rely on ss for income.

Remember: ss was *never* intended to be the sole income source for old people. The govt reasonably expected that someone who has worked for 45 years would have been wise enough to save enough of their income yearly to have a decent nest egg. Not to mention the elderly have no child costs, no mortgage costs, and an extremely generous health insurance plan (Medicare) that costs very little to them in retirement.

The larger issue is financial ignorance among large segments of the population. People who were not saving 10% of their income yearly.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:51 am to
I sound like I am wagging a finger, but I have adult kids who I do way too much for. I don't carry them, and they don't really ask for money, but the Dad in me makes me volunteer up money way too often.

I'm not retired yet, but I need to completely wean off those 2 rascals ASAP.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170656 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:51 am to
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Most I ever paid was $190k

That's almost impossible as an entry point now

But certainly very doable 10 years ago or more
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:51 am to
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And the unfortunate reality is medical bills can cripple people financially before they even get to retirement age


Unfortunate? So these people didn't have insurance or failed to plan with short-term and long-term disability?

That's not "unfortunate"

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And yet the boot lickers will defend our system to the death



Compared to what other system? Canada?
Why don't you ask folks up there how long it takes to get non life threatening major surgery (knee/hip replacement) Canadian wait times
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62440 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:51 am to
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You are doubling down on ignorance buddy...

LINK


You’re cute.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30903 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:52 am to
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This is a HUGE issue in Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and California.
Quite simply, it's the overflow/result of an incredibly stupid, short sighted ultra liberal culture in a state (California), that's now buried itself in incompetence and debt. The other three closest states are just where fallout will occur first (plus land's a helluva lot cheaper in them.)
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78251 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:52 am to
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Just think if they all had just half the investing know how of our Congress.


they would be in jail for I sider trading.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296569 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:54 am to
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I sound like I am wagging a finger, but I have adult kids who I do way too much for. I don't carry them, and they don't really ask for money, but the Dad in me makes me volunteer up money way too often.


Same. I've got one who is pretty needy, and one who is totally independent. The needy one is expensive as frick and I blame myself for caving so quickly.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170656 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:55 am to
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Unfortunate? So these people didn't have insurance or failed to plan with short-term and long-term disability?

That's not "unfortunate"


Even with all of that it can still be financially devastating

You still have out of pocket expenses with insurance

Short and long term disability doesn't provide complete income replacement

So yes, it's unfortunate you fricking retard
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:55 am to
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I blame myself for caving so quickly.


We both need to get over that shite.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28134 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:56 am to
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Not to mention the elderly have no child costs,



Whether through death or frick-uppery there'll always be a significant number of grandparents raising kids.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296569 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:57 am to
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We both need to get over that shite.


Its hard. She has legit health issues, and I am softhearted with my kids and grandkids.

One of my granddaughters lives with me, I have spent more on her this year than on myself. Bought her a practically new car... and her high school travel budget is out of this world.

Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:59 am to
yeah, that's different. I get it.

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and her high school travel budget is out of this world.


Alaska thing?
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4506 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:59 am to
Taxed into oblivion, paying for the welfare queens and global corruption isn’t cheap.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296569 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Alaska thing?


Juneau thing. There are no bus rides to away games or meets. Its all by plane or ferry. Kids here travel constantly.

She told me the softball team spent 50k on a trip to play a game out of state.

Granddaughter won the state debating title and is flying to Iowa for the national meet this summer. I'll probably go with her, those trips cost a lot flying from here.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56899 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:08 pm to
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It happened to my grandma, retard. My mother slowly had to sell off land she owned to pay for her Alzheimer's treatments. You, being a trust funder pretend you werent born on third base... Youve never earned anything.






Ok. Guess I can still go after you. Maybe your dumbass ancestors should have looked into long term care insurance or some other solution so they didn’t have to sell off their land. Some very basic trust planning even.

This makes even more sense why you hate the rich and love estate taxes. Your poor arse family didn’t leave you shite. Not even a bus to give tours on.

Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5914 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 1:14 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170656 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:12 pm to
I notice you're not disputing his claim that you're a trust fund baby that never had to earn anything

Is that true?
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