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eelsuee
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Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
About 12,000 people are murdered or accidentally killed by guns. You are far more likely to die from someone else smoking or someone else drinking than from someone else owning a gun. Even someone driving while not drinking is far more likely to kill you than someone owning a gun.

If protecting people was their main concern, then other items like reducing speed limits or making cigarettes or alcohol illegal would be way more important than guns. We should also consider making people fill in their swimming pools while we are protecting lives. Why are guns so high on their agenda? What is the real reason, because saving lives isn't it?

Top 10 causes of death in US
1. Heart Disease 614,348
2. Cancer 591,699
3. Chronic lower respiratory disease 147,101
4. Accidents 136,053
5. Stroke 133,033
6. Alzheimer's disease 93,541
7. Diabetes 76,488
8. Influenza and pneumonia 55,227
9. Kidney Disease 48,146
10. Suicide 42,773


Vehicular Deaths
35092 Vehicle deaths in 2015
10265 of those are alcohol related

Alcohol related deaths
An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually

Smoking related deaths
480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.

Deaths from drowning
an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States

Gun related deaths in US
33,636 total gun deaths.
The majority of those are suicide 21,175 while homicide was 11,208 and 505 were due to negligence. Another 281 were undetermined intent.
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Haughton99
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
You do realize that the human brain allows a person to be concerned about more than one thing at a time.


roadGator
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Where is your outrage regarding the others?


Aristo
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Better question. Why are they only concerned about guns when a bunch of white people die?


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HC87
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Just saying...many of the illnesses on your list are uncontrollable (i.e. cancers), some even hereditary. Also none of the illnesses/ailments can kill over 50 and wound/injure 100s within a few minutes....

What would you propose, no action? Just keep admiring the problem?

When we have a aviation or ground mishap in the Marine Corps we investigate it immediately (not weeks/months from now) to ID, mitigate, and even remove causal factors. Thereafter adjust policies/procedures and move forward. Why would we not do the same here?



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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Power


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Centinel
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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What would you propose, no action? Just keep admiring the problem?



What is the problem exactly? The gun, or why the gun was used?

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When we have a aviation or ground mishap in the Marine Corps we investigate it immediately (not weeks/months from now) to ID, mitigate, and even remove causal factors. Thereafter adjust policies/procedures and move forward. Why would we not do the same here?



Read the underlined part of what you wrote carefully. Focus the most on the two words "causal factors."



632627
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
I'm not in favor of strict gun control, but c'mon man.... comparing guns to cancer ?


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eelsuee
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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You do realize that the human brain allows a person to be concerned about more than one thing at a time.


I didn't ask why guns were on their agenda, I asked why guns were so high on their agenda, above other more deadly problems.


Superquincy
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
But, if we could save just 1 life... just 1 life.

Meanwhile 950,000 abortions will get conducted this year.


demtigers73
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Because guns look scary


thebigmuffaletta
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Because the people they hate (whites, conservatives, libertarians, Christians) own them. It's pretty simple.


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efrad
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
A guy just killed 50 people and injured many more at a concert.

Banning guns or implementing gun control is not the answer, but you can't understand the concern people might have?


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HC87
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
So you would advocate that the types of weapons, accessories, and the mods made to them were not a causal factor? NOT saying they are the sole causal factor.

If so, I guess that is where we differ.


Centinel
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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So you would advocate that the types of weapons, accessories, and the mods made to them were not a causal factor? NOT saying they are the sole causal factor.


Nope. They're simply tools. The cause is not the tools used. The cause is why he did it.



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Taxing Authority
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Attacking (blaming) guns keeps them from having to address the social ills caused by their leftist policies that have destroyed the family, incentivized single-parent households, and made depravity and dishonesty socially acceptable.

It’s a scapegoat.


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troyt37
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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Thereafter adjust policies/procedures and move forward. Why would we not do the same here?


Are any of the policies/procedures in the Marine Corps enumerated rights of the citizens, codified by the Constitution of the United States, requiring a 2/3 vote in both houses of Congress, or a convention, called for by 2/3 of the state legislatures, to change them?


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Loserman
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
Control!

Even though we have over 300 million guns in the US, the left has long been winning the debate over guns.
The staunchest mainstream supporters of THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, have long given up, and they frame their reasons for 2nd Amendment support as hunting and personal defense rights.
Our right to bear arms was enshrined at a much much higher level.
It was ensured to us, by us, so that our government would ALWAYS be afraid of us instead of us becoming afraid of our government.
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Zach
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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You do realize that the human brain allows a person to be concerned about more than one thing at a time.


Sure. But the OP is asking specifically about liberals.


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Taxing Authority
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re: Why are liberals so concerned about guns?
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So you would advocate that the types of weapons, accessories, and the mods made to them were not a causal factor?
The myth here is that laws, or unavailability of a weapon is what keeps people from committing heinous acts. It isn’t.

No one likes to admit it, but.... The only thing that keeps people from committing crimes is their own character and respect for other’s human life. That’s it. It’s not laws. It’s not lacking weapons.

If you handed a random person on the street an untraceable full-auto weapon and said “here ya’ go!” They almost certainly would not turn around and start shooting people.


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