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Why are Dems pushing Russia/obstruction so hard when the hammer

Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13103 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:38 pm
is about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate, etc.? Seems like self destructive behavior on their end, they should be retreating on this issue and focusing on stuff like healthcare if they were being rational.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:39 pm to
It's all they got baw.


This was their plan and they literally had no backup.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19192 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:39 pm to
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s about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate, etc.? Seems like self destructive behavior on their end, they should be retreating on this issue and focusing on stuff like healthcare if they were being rational.
It's the whole "don't mind that man behind the curtain" thing. Watch the right hand so you don't know what the left is doing.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:39 pm to
it's just an umbrella against the coming storm

Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62375 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:42 pm to
They moved on to Obstruction of their false investigation. You know the hammer is about to drop on them when they start every reply with “ but Collusion isn’t a crime” . They are putting that narrative out to protect themselves for when the reality hits, that it was them colluding with Foreign powers; cause for 2 years all they’ve talked about is Trump as a colluder.....My how the narrative has flipped
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1563 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:44 pm to
To deep in the rabbit hole. But more so their just fricking insane. Trump has officially broken them.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57142 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14414 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:47 pm to
You ever caught a kid that broke something and tried to hide it? The closer you get to where they hid it, the louder they get to get you to stop looking.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79980 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:50 pm to
They're trying to play the "reciprocity" card to convince the electorate that the only thing standing between America and an evil dictatorship is to vote for the arse party.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11906 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:52 pm to
They have the media in their pocket. The media can make a bit up. So the majority of the public will never know the truth.
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:52 pm to
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the hammer is about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate


Those things aren't gonna happen in real life, baw, they're straight out of right-wing fever dreams.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:54 pm to
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Those things aren't gonna happen in real live, baw, they're straight out of right-wing fever dreams.
Nice work Nelliemaster.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51488 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:03 pm to
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is about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate, etc.?


My guess is they are hoping to bury it with all the outrage and furor they expect from some imagined bombshell. Along with that I would guess that they believe if something miraculous (for them) is found then that might give them the ammo they need to stop those investigations.

Too bad for them that reality doesn't work that way. We've gotten all the "bombshells" from the Mueller report that are ever going to come and for the most part it treated them like Wile E. Coyote by blowing up in their collective face. The best they could possibly hang their hat on right now is a weak charge of Obstruction that sits on very unstable ground.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21874 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:20 pm to
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about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate, etc.


Outside of far-right bubbles, it's well-known nothing is going to happen with any of your pet conspiracy theories.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4125 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Outside of far-right bubbles


NYTimes....far right bubble.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Outside of far-right bubbles, it's well-known nothing is going to happen with any of your pet conspiracy theories.



Atl has spoken, guys.

She's really had a finger on the pulse of this thing, so if she says it you can take it to the bank. Her record speaks for itself, really
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13915 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 1:52 pm to
Their strategy is to try to discredit the messengers before the messengers can announce their messages.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Why are Dems pushing Russia/obstruction so hard when the hammer is about to come down on FISA abuse, spygate, etc.?


Media. They know they are about to go to jail. They could have played it one of 2 ways.

1) The smart play - stay quiet, and try to float off into obscurity, maybe even help out the investigation to reduce jail time or

2) the stupid play - be as loud as possible and basically tell the media why they are about to be indicted but play it off as some tyrannical "far fetched idea" so when it actually happens, they can say, "i told you". The failure in this line of thinking is they believe the media will save them for proper justice. They don't realize they are only talking to themselves.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15031 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:27 pm to
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is about to come down


So Barr has testified twice before the Senate. The first time he spoke about getting a group together to investigate FISA abuse. And then yesterday he talked about getting a group together to talk about FISA abuse. If a hammer was going to drop why hasn't he progressed with his group between hearing 1 & 2. Time is running out man. He could own the narrative but doesn't. He's acting as if we were not in an election season.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112417 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:41 pm to
They're not so much pushing Russia/obstruction. They're shifting to character assassination to get Barr to drop the whole thing and say 'Well, let's move on.'
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