re: Who should run schools? Federal government, state government or local government?

quote:

---

So should parents who pay out of pocket for private education be forced to pay for other parents' kids public education?

---

I said multiple times I’m all for there being no public funds for any schools. Let parents pay for their own babysitters. I was a public school teacher three times.

I'm almost out of words.

If there is a good district/county/parish where the parents actually care and teach their children discipline then public schools can be successful.

Unfortunately in many areas this is not the case. Look at Baltimore or the inner city of north Baton Rouge.

For the most part the experiment has failed and it must be repaired. The districts/counties/parishes that have failing schools for more than 2 years need to be abolished and dissolved. Sell the properties and return that revenue to the taxpayers. The parents that really care about their child's education will find a way to educate their child. It is not just to place these large taxes on Citizens for these failing schools and then not produce an educated populace.

quote:

---

DoE needs to be abolished.



100%. Since its creation education has gotten worse by all measurable standards in the US.

---

And we spend more money per child than any other nation, yet still rank closer to the middle of the pack than the top when contrasted against the test scores of children from other nations.

Everything in which our benevolent government gets itself involved, ultimately fails spectacularly.

quote:

---

never realized you were a communist.

---

Me either.

But I guess you consider public education to be a pillar of communism? You should try reading a book. You might learn something.

quote:

---

You have injected government into schools by your question. Why should a government have say over how my children are educated?

---

I posed a question that reflects our current reality. I’m sorry that offended you.

quote:

---

But it has repeatedly been proven that “competition” doesn’t result in lower spending or better schools.

---

Then it's not "competition". There's nothing magic about education that exempts it from human nature.

And anecdotally I've seen competition work. If you want to base your theory on Louisiana fricking something up feel free, but that's not a metric I'd use.

quote:

---

Odd perspective from a graduate of a very fine public university If we were discussing LSU, on the other hand ...

---

Sad truth is, that “fine public university” is today nothing more than a lefty brainwashing institutions sadly enough!
I say that as somebody with an undergraduate degree and a masters degree from said university, plus my wife worked in the administration of said university so I’m aware of the stupidity that goes behind the curtains in higher education and who runs it.
Todays university’s are nothing but trash! I would send my kid to a trade school or pilot school before I send them to “higher education”!!

quote:

---

But it has repeatedly been proven that “competition” doesn’t result in lower spending or better schools.

---

When you’re limiting “competition” to the competition for Dept of Ed funds by “regular” public schools versus charter public schools, you’re not really talking about competition.

Drive over to the nicest two or three private schools in your town. Then look up their average ACT score. Then tell me competition doesn’t work.

quote:

---

I can understand and agree with that argument in principle, but you’re not getting that entire train back to the station.

---

I hate it when people say this. It's like eliminating the FBI or CIA or IRS. You can't do that! Oh really? You know we got along fine without them for over 100 years right?

Prior to state run education, communities, churches, and parents educated their children. That's the way it should be again.