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Who should run schools? Federal government, state government or local government?

Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50082 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:22 pm
There’s been a dramatic increase in the federal government’s involvement in public schools in America since the 1960’s, but public education has only declined since then. Who should be in charge of schools?

The federal government provides about 7% of the money required to operate schools.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116108 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:26 pm to
DoE needs to be abolished. Local sourcing. A federal agency trying to shoe horn solutions that don't work everywhere is a disaster.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:27 pm to
None of the above.
Government—at any level—doesn’t belong in education.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:27 pm to
Kill the deot od education it's worthless.

Local
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16456 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:28 pm to
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DoE needs to be abolished.


100%. Since its creation education has gotten worse by all measurable standards in the US.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:31 pm to
Education should be completely privatized at the K-12 level and the government should only exist to provide vouchers for tuition

Everyone can have access to education without the government being involved in said education
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:36 pm to
I’m 100% for them getting rid of public schools altogether. Let parents figure out their own childcare.
I realize some families will spend zero money educating their kids and we’ll have lots of uneducated people running around, but is that different than what we have now. We’re not getting the return spent on public education.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50082 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:36 pm to
Vouchers have already proven to increase costs and produce dumber students.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:40 pm to
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None of the above.
Government—at any level—doesn’t belong in education.
Odd perspective from a graduate of a very fine public university

If we were discussing LSU, on the other hand ...
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Education should be completely privatized at the K-12 level and the government should only exist to provide vouchers for tuition Everyone can have access to education without the government being involved in said education


I’m for education only being private, but I don’t want to see public money being spent on parochial schools either. I don’t want to spend public dollars having kids learn about Yahweh, Muhammad, or getting dwiddled by a man in a dress wearing a crucifix. Religious education should exist outside of public funding.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:43 pm to
I don't find anything in the Constitution that grants the federal government any authority whatsoever concerning education.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79655 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Antoninus


Hi Hank.

What’d you do to get banned this time?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67075 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Vouchers have already proven to increase costs and produce dumber students.


I would be interested in seeing some research on this.

Philosophically, I like the idea of competition and charter schools, but I haven’t exactly been thrilled by the results I have witnessed to date.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:47 pm to
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I don't find anything in the Constitution that grants the federal government any authority whatsoever concerning education.


No mention of airports, trains, space travel, mineral rights, and lots of other stuff but here we are.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7278 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:48 pm to
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outside of public funding.



So should parents who pay out of pocket for private education be forced to pay for other parents' kids public education?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:48 pm to
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No mention of airports, trains, space travel, mineral rights, and lots of other stuff but here we are.


Correct. Tyranny.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:53 pm to
Local...if the fed did it, they'd all be Baltimore slum schools
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7278 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Federal government


Nope, none at all

quote:

state government


Sets minimum standards? Ranks schools so other schools can learn from the best?

quote:

local government


Paid for by local people. Operated by local people. Oversight from elected local people.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

quote:

None of the above.
Government—at any level—doesn’t belong in education.

Odd perspective from a graduate of a very fine public university

If we were discussing LSU, on the other hand ...

I also attended K-12 public schools.
And I still believe education ought to be privatized.
Just my opinion; I understand other people think differently.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

quote:

I don't find anything in the Constitution that grants the federal government any authority whatsoever concerning education.

No mention of airports, trains, space travel, mineral rights, and lots of other stuff but here we are.

In a perfect scenario, those entities would be privatized as well.
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