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re: Who lost this disaster of an election?
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:12 pm to the808bass
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:12 pm to the808bass
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Right. But you’re missing the point. The complete inaction of the GOP party to try to legislate for sanity since maybe 1996 got us to where we are today.
Don’t disagree.
I would say it goes further back than that.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:15 pm to Auburn1968
Jr. made a good point that people who came over to the coalition bailed.
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This board is somewhat split on the impact of immigration/ICE. I think it had to have hurt in Texas.
There were a bunch of threads on how young white men flipped.
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This board is somewhat split on the impact of immigration/ICE. I think it had to have hurt in Texas.
There were a bunch of threads on how young white men flipped.
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Other weak-kneed wafflers listed exactly some of those things.
That is what you dullards don't get, you have nothing to build a coalition with and you agree about nothing among yourselves.
Flail away! I guess maybe you can brag about "not giving up" like Massie and MTG.
I vote this to be "best melt off of SEC Rant".
Dude, you bitching about "coalitions" but little cucks like you drive anyone wanting a coalition with you away.
One day, your fear will subside.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:18 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Except down ballot ... identically ... across at least 10 states. That my friend is inexplicable
Less motivated D's were motivated this time
Independent voters hated Republicans this time
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:21 pm to Bunk Moreland
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This board is somewhat split on the impact of immigration/ICE. I think it had to have hurt in Texas.
It’s impossible to argue that the public at large in America are on board with mass deportations.
The deaths of Pretti and Good probably solidified that for many people.
I think the only way forward, politically, is enforcing the border, deporting serious criminals (the definition of “serious” being somewhat of a moving target) and not concerning the government with mass enforcement of existing illegals.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:22 pm to Auburn1968
1) Trump
He campaigned on no more stupid wars and to lower costs and inflation.
He started another stupid war. 8 months before an election.
Our costs and inflation did not lower enough.
He lost the plot for why he was here. He lost MAGA.
2) the candidates
They mostly sucked. They put forth very little effort. They talked about how weird their opponents are while their opponents talked about the war, inflation, people’s gas, insurance premiums, healthcare access, student debt, groceries. And they had almost no scalps to show to their voters; other than the BBB, which wasn’t a clear W, they had nothing to show for accomplishments.
3) the voters
Voters are stupid. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about inflation after what they did from 2020-2024. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about healthcare costs when they created the Affordable Care Act. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about auto insurance costs when Democrats do away with credit and background checks for auto insurance. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats out of spite or not vote for Republicans because you’re a bigot and hate Indians or Christians or white people or Hispanics.
He campaigned on no more stupid wars and to lower costs and inflation.
He started another stupid war. 8 months before an election.
Our costs and inflation did not lower enough.
He lost the plot for why he was here. He lost MAGA.
2) the candidates
They mostly sucked. They put forth very little effort. They talked about how weird their opponents are while their opponents talked about the war, inflation, people’s gas, insurance premiums, healthcare access, student debt, groceries. And they had almost no scalps to show to their voters; other than the BBB, which wasn’t a clear W, they had nothing to show for accomplishments.
3) the voters
Voters are stupid. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about inflation after what they did from 2020-2024. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about healthcare costs when they created the Affordable Care Act. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats because you’re mad about auto insurance costs when Democrats do away with credit and background checks for auto insurance. It’s stupid to vote for Democrats out of spite or not vote for Republicans because you’re a bigot and hate Indians or Christians or white people or Hispanics.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:23 pm to NC_Tigah
Do you know the voting habits of less motivated voters and independents?
It's absolutely consistent over decades.
It's absolutely consistent over decades.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:23 pm to the808bass
Agreed on all of that. 
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:26 pm to Auburn1968
The Republican party.
It's that simple. The war, the constant spending, the not passing the SAVE Act, the non-release of the Epstein Files, the tariffs...
Not being actual America first and pushing conservative principles is what did them in.
On the ONE issue they were conservatives on, immigration, they were polling through the roof.
We need poll tests in Republican primaries. We CONSTANTLY get spineless liars running for office and letting us down damn near every single time then complain about the spineless liars WE elected.
It's that simple. The war, the constant spending, the not passing the SAVE Act, the non-release of the Epstein Files, the tariffs...
Not being actual America first and pushing conservative principles is what did them in.
On the ONE issue they were conservatives on, immigration, they were polling through the roof.
We need poll tests in Republican primaries. We CONSTANTLY get spineless liars running for office and letting us down damn near every single time then complain about the spineless liars WE elected.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:27 pm to aubie101
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The leader takes the responsibility. It starts at the top and anything else is cowardly. It is all on Trump.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:38 pm to OWLFAN86
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The voters in the middle do not vote on policy; they vote on personality
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:40 pm to junkyarddawg3
OK then you tell me what do voters in the middle, independent those not aligned with either party, use in discernment for their voting
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:43 pm to aubie101
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The leader takes the responsibility
So the Majority Leaders are not leader enough to take responsibility too?
Fricking auburn fan
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:04 pm to OWLFAN86
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The voters in the middle do not vote on policy; they vote on personality
1) Your comment reads (to me) as if those 2 (policy and personality) are mutually exclusive; apologies if I misunderstood.
2) I can only speak for myself, but I suspect there are plenty of us (educated) independent voters that value either or both.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:19 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:It is. This was not that ... at all. Aberrancies in at least 10 states were as significant as 2020.
Do you know the voting habits of less motivated voters and independents?
It's absolutely consistent over decades.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:24 pm to Auburn1968
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Who lost this disaster of an election?
Trump owns the GOP right now but it sure was a team effort to screw things up. Everyone lost, including the American people.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:33 pm to Auburn1968
Dominion voting machines
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:33 pm to Auburn1968
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Who lost this disaster of an election?
Everyone.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:47 pm to Auburn1968
America
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:05 pm to the808bass
He tries to attempt to ennunciate policy via a tweet or truth social. Might be effective for him and politicking, bad for establishing and setting up policy.
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