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re: Who is your least favorite GOP candidate?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:50 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:50 pm to AggieHank86
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He certainly has a "platform," consisting of a hodgepodge of stances with little or no unifying theme
That's not a platform, that's just a pile of lumber.
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populist demagoguery
Exactly. I don't consider that a serious platform.
Besides which, he's already shown that he doesn't understand how the executive office fits in with the rest of the government such that the different branches can work together to accomplish necessary goals.
He would make a far better tin-pot dictator of some third-world shithole.
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:To this day, I don't think that he grasps the concept that the role of the President in the US government is not the same as being top management of a closely-held family business.
Besides which, he's already shown that he doesn't understand how the executive office fits in with the rest of the government such that the different branches can work together to accomplish necessary goals.
I am utterly convinced that he still sees Congress (and the Judiciary) as subordinates of the Executive, rather than as co-equal branches.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:06 pm to Northwestern tiger
Hutchinson
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:15 pm to AggieHank86
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To this day, I don't think that he grasps the concept that the role of the President in the US government is not the same as being top management of a closely-held family business.
I am utterly convinced that he still sees Congress (and the Judiciary) as subordinates of the Executive, rather than as co-equal branches.
Yep and yep.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:To me, the sad element is that a large number of his supporters seem to feel the same way. They were aghast, every time that Congress did not just knuckle-under and enact every policy that he put forth.
To this day, I don't think that he grasps the concept that the role of the President in the US government is not the same as being top management of a closely-held family business.
I am utterly convinced that he still sees Congress (and the Judiciary) as subordinates of the Executive, rather than as co-equal branches.quote:
Yep and yep.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:26 pm to Northwestern tiger
Chris Christie.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Plus, he's sucking all the air out of the room, and stifling real political discourse. Namely, how we are going to get our fiscal shite together.
Wow. Get our fiscal shite together. The republican party, champions of the "free market capitalism" that destroyed our industrial capability, transformed our lower and middle class into debt slaves, hasn't met an omnibus bill they won't vote for, haven't met a WAR they don't want to start and crow about their bipartisanship sending billions and billions to feed a proxy war with Russia... THIS is who we are looking to for "real political discourse"? Over FISCAL shite?
And this is a Trump problem.
Incredible.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:34 pm to AggieHank86
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To me, the sad element is that a large number of his supporters seem to feel the same way. They were aghast, every time that Congress did not just knuckle-under and enact every policy that he put forth.
Hot take: Politics were better when the average person didn’t pay attention outside of the run-up to POTUS elections. Things could get done in “off years” that way. Nowawadays, everything on every issue is tied to the next election, midterms included. To be honest it’s unsustainable from a governance perspective. Our political structure was built for deliberate, consensus action, not perma-election gridlock.
Back to the conversation you and Tchoup are having…..the people who started following politics solely because of Donald Trump’s viral clips and populist antics in 15-16 don’t have a single clue how Congress operates.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:34 pm to Northwestern tiger
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Who is your least favorite GOP candidate?
Why limit to just one? My answer is any fat arse, grifter, or previous General Election loser.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:41 pm to momentoftruth87
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Probably Rob. I really liked the guy before he came the Karen candidate. The other candidates I give no attention to because they have no shot. It was either Don or Rob and the people spoke. It’s Don
You never liked him and you would never vote for him. Just admit it.
Nothing changed with him on policy. The only reason you claimed to "like" him was because your dear leader said nice things about him.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:46 pm to Boss13
If you dislike Vivek more than Christie or Asa, I feel like you haven't been paying attention.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:48 pm to RUFshreve
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If you dislike Vivek more than Christie or Asa,
I certainly trust him less. I know who those guys are at least.
Vivek has zero conservative credentials and apparently holds no actual political principles. He comes across as a smarmy snake oil salesman who tells his audience what they want to hear in every setting.
That said, I won’t vote for any of those three in a primary election.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:29 pm to AggieHank86
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To me, the sad element is that a large number of his supporters seem to feel the same way.
The mob craves dictatorship.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:39 pm to Northwestern tiger
Trump went from favorite to least favorite with this Desanctimonious bull shite. What an unhinged child.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:41 pm to Paddyshack
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Christie
Asa
Haley
Pence
In that order
^this here ^
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:45 pm to Northwestern tiger
In order (worst first)
Christie
Asa
Trump
Haley
Christie
Asa
Trump
Haley
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
Hutchinson, Christie, and Pence.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 5:01 pm to AUCom96
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The republican party, champions of the "free market capitalism" that destroyed our industrial capability
yep
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transformed our lower and middle class into debt slaves
yep
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hasn't met an omnibus bill they won't vote for
yep
quote:
haven't met a WAR they don't want to start
yep
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crow about their bipartisanship sending billions and billions to feed a proxy war with Russia
yep
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THIS is who we are looking to for "real political discourse"? Over FISCAL shite?
Pretty much.
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And this is a Trump problem.
Yep, he didn't help either.
The Democrats run on free stuff. When they win, everyone gets free stuff.
The Republicans run on fiscal responsibility (used to, at least). When THEY win, everyone gets free stuff.
Two takeaways from that analysis: at least the Democrats are the honest ones, and at least the Republicans talk about fiscal responsibility.
I want to hear more talk about fiscal responsibility, and less demagoguery. Trump's demagoguery is drowning everyone else out.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 6:22 pm to Northwestern tiger
Two way tie between Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christie
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