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re: Who here thinks this was a state sanctioned assassination attempt?

Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:08 am to
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16525 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:08 am to
somebody knew. no excuse for this, and now the FBI is on it, we will never know the whole truth until years later

SS advance team frickED up
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51684 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:11 am to
You are violating Hanlon’s Razor.
quote:

Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53258 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:11 am to
Just remember this - and keep repeating it - because Our Government told us this -

Oswald acted alone.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20106 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:14 am to
The current site had one building to secure.

The secret service had enough resources to secure that building.

Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3806 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:29 am to
Well, it seems like:

The rooftop was an obvious sniping position.

People noticed the shooter before he started shooting.

The SS was slow to shoot back.

The on stage SS was slow to react.

Trump would be very likely be dead if he hadn't randomly turned his head at the right moment.

The shooter was 20 years old but apparently had no social media presence, was a registered republican, and wearing a shirt from a gun-guy youtuber.

It definitely smells funny.

Also, if I'm wrong about any of the above I'd appreciate hearing about it; I don't *want* to be a conspiracy nut but OTOH I am thinking about the JFK conspiracy theorists in a new light.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16525 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:36 am to
Dont know if it was a conspiracy or not we will get half truths at best from the FBI

What is obvious is the SS advance detail fricked up big time, my feeling in the innner circle knew, a Thorough detail failed of the site failed, and it almost killed Trump and killed a civillian
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17655 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:42 am to
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I just cannot make sense of two things:

(1) a building less than 130 yards away has no one on it or guarding it that was apparently easy to climb; and
(2) the snipers had the guy in their sights, with a gun, while the president is talking (their scopes would allow them to clearly see the weapon) and the SS didn’t remove Trump and snipers didn’t shoot.


I’ll definitely give you #1.

For the second, I’ve seen some satellite imagery where it looks like trees may have been in the way (giving even more weight to #1), and it’s being questioned whether or not the guys on the barn took the shooter out.

ETA: I’m trying to keep a balanced mind and temperament on this, because we really need that as a country right now. I don’t know whether or not I’ll believe the FBI reports when they come out, but I don’t want to go into it with a bias against accepting anything they release. They’ve lost a lot of credibility over the years, which is their own fault, but I need to put any confirmation bias aside and look at this objectively. We all do.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 9:47 am
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2858 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:43 am to
The patsy can't look like a pro, but has to be good enough to actually get the job done.

That's the weak link in this theory.

If anything, it was passively done - i.e.: "put the worst agents on his detail, have lax security, and if something happens, some thing happens."
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:44 am to
They 100% lured this kid into it.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18781 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Did you see how many SS were right there immediately after and ushering him into the vehicle? Did you see the snipers on the rooftop behind Trump? One was pointing his rifle in the direction of the shooter. Don't overthink this. He was allowed to take those shots. Too much smoke
Absolutely! It doesn’t necessarily have to be a “state sanctioned” hit. It could be where the Secret Service just hesitates purposely in their duties. Become a little sloppy on purpose. I think any basic security crew would have eyes on that roof.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 9:51 am
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2993 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:54 am to
quote:

They 100% lured this kid into it.


100%

Smells of Whitmer "kidnapping". 1 patsy with half a dozen Fed handlers planning and pushing.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41754 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:54 am to
Do I believe that it was state sanctioned? - no.

Is it plausible? - absolutely.


That is a sad, sobering thought.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18781 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:57 am to

The trees might have obscured the snipers on the other roof, but the negligence almost had to be on purpose. Eyewitnesses watching the guy on the roof and nobody is doing anything. The people see it but they had no security in the crowd? LOL
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7282 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:02 am to
quote:

It could be where the Secret Service just hesitates 


I would like to keep tabs on the sniper's bank account. Remember Epstein's guards browsing for cars and vacations while he was hanging himself?
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4032 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:04 am to
Agree 100%, deep state / shadow government are terrified of DJT and they can see how it’s lining up.

I fear that next there will be some sort of “mechanical failure” on Trumps plane.

Makes me sick
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36849 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:07 am to
He was closer to the edge and on the backside slope of the roof (as seen by this photo and the fact that he could be seen from the freaking ground) so I don’t think the trees were an issue. And snipers lining up in a place that they would be obscured by trees would be stupid incompetence to begin with





So many questions it’s hard to even start
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23336 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:10 am to
The points I have

1.Why wasn’t Trump immediately taken off stage when the “potential” threat was recognized? As it appears from the information out there, some law enforcement and SS knew about it for some period before the shooter shot.

2 We are to assume this 20 year old just happened upon this gap in security randomly. For that to happen then I think we would have to assume the SS has been screwing up for a long time. This has not been their only miss if you are going to believe it wasn’t an inside job.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 10:12 am
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
2619 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:12 am to
You see the guy has a gun and you wait for him to shoot?! WTH! DEI-SS
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17655 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:12 am to
quote:

The trees might have obscured the snipers on the other roof, but the negligence almost had to be on purpose. Eyewitnesses watching the guy on the roof and nobody is doing anything. The people see it but they had no security in the crowd? LOL


I completely agree about the negligence.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48700 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Was it state sanctioned? I have no idea. Do I believe it could've been? Oh hell yes I do.


This is where I am parking
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