re: White House disses Easter

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Says your religion, which billions think is bullshite. They also happen to think their version of god has decided that their truth is "the" truth.

Weird...

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Yeah, really weird. It's almost as if the Scriptures are correct about the spiritual blindness that exists in the world where people worship gods of their own creation because they hate God in their blindness and suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

I always fall back on how we can best account for reality as we know it, and what worldview or beliefs comport with that reality. The biblical worldview does that while no others do.

Why the hell does the bunny need glasses. He eats carrots everyday.

Leave it to a liberal to frick things up and they will do it 100%.

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Not at all. You've just provided a conjecture about the nature of Scripture based on your bias against it.

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I've provided an observation based on verifiable inconsistencies in the text.

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Excommunicate him

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Sadly I am unable to do this as I do not have the authority. I suppose that we could write to the Pope and request the excommunication but would not hold my breath that such a request would be granted.

There is nothing as embarrassing as a man who thinks he knows everything.
I'm sure you know much about what your cult thinks, very little about anything outside of what they feed you.

Anyone speaking about knowing ancient history needs to start from Archeology and the extant secular texts e.g. Tacitus, Livy etc... Nothing you have said has anything to do with ancient history.

Sure you can say I believe x,y,z. But leave actual history out of this.

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None of which actually come close to doing so.

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He even goes so far as to say Jesus never existed. Luke is considered to have had first hand accounts written in the Book of Acts.


Here is a pretty decent recount of the christian and non christian sources.

The synoptic gospels are the primary sources of historical information about Jesus and of the religious movement he founded.[57][58] The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke recount the life, ministry, crucifixion and resurrection of a Jew named Jesus who spoke Aramaic. There are different hypotheses regarding the origin of the texts because the gospels of the New Testament were written in Greek for Greek-speaking communities,[59] and were later translated into Syriac, Latin, and Coptic.[60] Scholars argue that the surviving gospels show usage of earlier independent written and oral sources that extended back to the time of Jesus's death, but did not survive.[61][note 12] Aramaic sources have been detected in Mark's Gospel, which could indicate use of early or even eyewitness testimony when it was being written.[62][63] Historians often study the historical reliability of the Acts of the Apostles when studying the reliability of the gospels, as the Book of Acts was seemingly written by the same author as the Gospel of Luke.[64]

Among contemporary scholars, there is consensus that the gospels are a type of ancient biography.[65][66][67][68][69]

Pauline epistles
The seven Pauline epistles considered by scholarly consensus to be genuine were written in a span of a decade starting in the late 40s (i.e., approximately 20 to 30 years after the generally accepted time period of Jesus's death) and are the earliest surviving Christian texts that include information about Jesus.[40] Although Paul the Apostle provides relatively little biographical information about Jesus[70] and states that he never knew Jesus personally, he does make it clear that he considers Jesus to have been a real person[note 13] and a Jew.[71][72][73][74][note 14] Moreover, he interacted with eyewitnesses of Jesus since he wrote about meeting and knowing James, the brother of Jesus[75][note 15][note 10] and Jesus's apostles Peter[77][note 16] and John.[79] Additionally, there are independent sources (Mark, John, Paul, Josephus) affirming that Jesus actually had brothers.[80]

Craig A. Evans and Ehrman argue that Paul's letters are among the earliest sources that provide a direct link to people who lived with and knew Jesus since Paul was personally acquainted with Peter and John, two of Jesus's original disciples, and James, the brother of Jesus.[46][77] Paul's first meeting with Peter was around 36 AD.[77] Paul is the earliest surviving source to document Jesus' death by crucifixion and his conversion occurred two years after this event.[40] Paul mentioned details in his letters such as that Jesus was a Jew, born of the line of David, and had biological brothers.[40] According to Simon Gathercole, Paul's description of Jesus's life on Earth, his personality, and family tend to establish that Paul regarded Jesus as a natural person, rather than an allegorical figure.[81]

Non-Christian sources
Josephus and Tacitus
Main articles: Josephus on Jesus and Tacitus on Jesus
Non-Christian sources used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include the c. first century Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus. These sources are compared to Christian sources, such as the Pauline letters and synoptic gospels, and are usually independent of each other; that is, the Jewish sources do not draw upon the Roman sources. Similarities and differences between these sources are used in the authentication process.[82][83][84][85] From these two independent sources alone, certain facts about Jesus can be adduced: that he existed, his personal name was Jesus, he was called a messiah, he had a brother named James, he won over Jews and gentiles, Jewish leaders had unfavorable opinions of him, Pontius Pilate decided his execution, he was executed by crucifixion, and he was executed during Pilate's governorship.[33] Josephus and Tacitus agree on four sequential points: a movement was started by Jesus, he was executed by Pontius Pilate, his movement continued after his death, and that a group of "Christians" still existed; analogous to common knowledge of founders and their followers like Plato and Platonists.[86]

Jesus is referenced by Josephus twice, once in Book 18 and once in Book 20 of Antiquities of the Jews, written around AD 93 to 94. On the first reference, the general scholarly view holds that the longer passage, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, in Book 18 most likely consists of an authentic nucleus that was subjected to later Christian interpolation or forgery.[87][88] On the second reference, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman states that "few have doubted the genuineness" of the reference found in Antiquities 20, 9, 1 to "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James".[89][90][91][92]

Tacitus, in his Annals (written c. AD 115), book 15, chapter 44,[93] describes Nero's scapegoating of the Christians following the Fire of Rome. He writes that the founder of the sect was named Christus (the Christian title for Jesus); that he was executed under Pontius Pilate; and that the movement, initially checked, broke out again in Judea and even in Rome itself.[94] The scholarly consensus is that Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pilate is both authentic and of historical value as an independent Roman source.[95][96][97]

Mishnah
The Mishnah (c. 200) may refer to Jesus as it reflects the early Jewish traditions of portraying Jesus as a sorcerer or magician.[98][99][100][101] Other references to Jesus and his execution exist in the Talmud, but they aim to discredit his actions, not deny his existence.[98][102]


History of Jesus

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your cult

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As usual you Christians project your faults onto others. You hold ceremonies where you eat the body and drink the blood of your leader who was sacrificed.

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So we basically have no historical evidence for a Jesus on earth.

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Absolute blasphemy clown

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We have the same level of historical evidence for Jesus as we have for Odysseus or Hercules.

White House can eat a bag of dicks.