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re: “White Devils”—FBI Records Show Muhammad Ali’s Racist Mosque Tirades

Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:27 am to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:27 am to
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Yeah, you are right. Muhammad Ali had no reason to loathe white devils. Please Imagine for a moment not being able to eat where you want, not being able to sit where you want on a bus. Imagine for a moment a legal system overtly biased against people because of their skin color. Imagine for a moment not being able to go to school with white children. Imagine for a moment people being lynched because of their skin color. Those were the times in which he was raised.


Well that's the Governments fault not all white people. The Government has been in the business of racism on both sides forever.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:29 am to
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You can only dream of having 5% of the courage and integrity of Muhammad Ali


What the hell is this? Ali was some mouthy jack hole who beat people up for a living. He was racist and self-serving. Then he got old and became an invalid because of getting punched in the head too much which elicited sympathy for him and elevated him to near sainthood.

I don't get the worship of this guy. When he died last year all these people were acting like he was some kind of Mother Teresa. I was like, "I think you people have short memories."
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11156 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:30 am to
Jim Brown made a good point about Ali: Everybody hated Ali when he could talk, then when he lost his ability to talk everybody loved him.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73599 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:32 am to
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a know it all if you will.


All "engineers" are like this
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:32 am to
Had not Ali been able to express his anti-white rage in the Ring, it's likely that it would have been released into the street. Probably a common theme.

The sad but true fact is that while Progressive Black Ideologues are taking down and attempting to obliterate any remembrance of the Confederacy (Statues, Flags, etc.)...it is the flaming and pernicious celebration of Slavery in our Educational Institutions that does more harm to the psyches of Blacks and their relationships to Whites than Robert E. Lee ever could. Just imagine if there were no historical record for slavery...much less if it were not used as a political wedge/divide and conquer tool. What a load off for poor and simplistic Black folk who are further burdened and would otherwise be free.

IMO, all part of the character education process after we left "the Garden" in order to find out who we truly are. Educated choice. It is what it is. Earth 2017. All comes out in the wash sooner or later.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:33 am to
Hey, Hornets Boy. Here's a thought. Instead of trying to defend a dead Muslim racist, why don't you spend your time trying to actually do something constructive for "your people"? Blacks comprise 13% of the population, yet commit half all murders. Percentage-wise, blacks dominate both the welfare and food stamp rolls. Etc, etc.

Stop making excuses for a dead black racist and help "your people" get their damn house in order. They're the biggest drain on America BY FAR.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:34 am to
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Hey, Hornets Boy. Here's a thought. Instead of trying to defend a dead Muslim racist, why don't you spend your time trying to actually do something constructive for "your people"? Blacks comprise 13% of the population, yet commit half all murders. Percentage-wise, blacks dominate both the welfare and food stamp rolls. Etc, etc.

Stop making excuses for a dead black racist and help "your people" get their damn house in order. They're the biggest drain on America BY FAR.
Standsby for Hornet.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57963 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:36 am to
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programs of integration are useless,” t



I've got to agree with him here.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:37 am to
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They're the biggest drain on America BY FAR.


I thought it was the Mexicans, with Muslims taking a strong second?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:37 am to
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You all do realize the racist times that Muhammad Ali was raised in, don't you? Lynchings, Separate but equal/Jim Crow, KKK.
No no no. We are not allowed to look at historical figures this way. We must judge them with todays views.


Down with his statues, down with the streets named after him, erase Ali from history!!!!!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:43 am to
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What the hell is this?



Ali risked his boxing career while in his prime to refuse serving in Vietnam. He didn't use his status to do that, like so many rich white kids did. He didn't use some benign medical condition like so many rich white kids did. He showed up to his enlistment assignment and made them arrest him.

I doubt many here would have the courage to do that.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57963 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:43 am to
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no no. We are not allowed to look at historical figures this way. We must judge them with todays views.



You know it doesn't work both ways. It's like women or minorities wanting equal rights until they can't compete on an equal bases and then wanting preferential treatment.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:48 am to
You disagree?

If white people weren't needed, why didn't change occur before the 1960's?

Who controlled the entire power structure in the 1960's?
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 8:50 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:51 am to
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When he said this most white people were acting like white devils
I disagree with your statement with MOST, but overall I agree. Now, lets try to have an adult conversation

I understand exactly why Ali felt the way he did, based on what was happening around him. Now, lets get into the discussion of slave owners and slavery.

When it began, the black people that were seen by the whites were wearing loin cloths and still throwing spears, and had no real advancement as a society at all. So, theyu saw them less of a race. They didnt have tv and studies to let them know this could be a product of many different things. They simply saw a group of people so far down the evolutionary chain from them.

Now, does this make it right knowing what we do now? Absolutely fricking not. But they werent dealing with 1/10000th the info we are now. And alot of men changed their views when they saw the black man was cut from the same cloth as others. They evolved their views just like Ali.....
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:57 am to
I wonder what kind of environment Ali grew up in 1940s-50s Kentucky?
Posted by GeauxVols
Franklin
Member since Nov 2007
214 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:01 am to
I haven't seen this benefit of the doubt given to Lee, Beauregard, Davis, Old Hickory, et al. ¯\_(?)_/¯
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:01 am to
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I wonder what kind of environment Ali grew up in 1940s-50s Kentucky? 


Your boy Obama grew up in 1960's Hawaii & 1970's Indonesia, but it didn't keep that little bitch from acting like Kunta Kinte 2.0

Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23393 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:02 am to
This is why I've never understood the fawning over him by whites.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48352 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:05 am to
Great thread!

You may have just given Mayor Landrieu a great idea for a statue to replace R.E. Lee in Lee Circle, soon to be renamed "Muhammed Ali Circle" !



Fact is that Ali and the other Black Muslims of his day were ahead of their times. They would fit right in today with the BLM movement. They would certainly garner support from Democrat constituencies.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:07 am to
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This is why I've never understood the fawning over him by whites.


I've actually known some blacks, respectable blacks, who couldn't stand him. Primarily for turning his back on America & the U.S. military.

Ali got suckered in by the wrong crowd. The Black Muslim organization isn't even recognized by true Muslims. They don't want to have anything to do with those fools.

Pretty bad when even a Muslim thinks you're a joke.
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