Which is more impressive?

2016

But the meltdown if he wins this year will be spectacular. Rather than shock, I expect absolute despondency.

2016. 2020 is pretty much guaranteed at this point. God Emperor has literally no competition. There shouldn't even be an election imo.

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2016 is pretty much guaranteed at this point. Her Majesty has literally no competition. There shouldn't even be an election imo.

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Dems in October 2016

2016.

When you basically have the entire apparatus of the US government and foreign spy agencies against you and you still win, it is hard to top that.

Christ, Hillary is the worst fricking candidate in history given she couldn’t win with all those advantages.

The melts from the realization that he'll be there for 4 more years will be absolutely amazing

2016, he won with them spying on him and his team.

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2020 is pretty much guaranteed at this point.

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This kind of thinking is why Hillary lost. Nothing is guaranteed

The left didn't think Trump had a chance in 2016. Those that weren't "With Her" didn't necessarily get out to vote for her because they didn't feel they need to to defeat Trump.

The visceral hatred for Trump was not there in the lead up to 2016 like it will be in 2020.

Now the DNC has handicapped themselves with their pathetic candidate but even Jimmy Carter got elected once.

Trust me on this. This will not be a slam dunk.

2016. We didn't really know what we were getting. Now we do. And he won't have to finance the campaign with his own money. It's pouring in.
One thing remains the same. His Dem opponent will again have a struggle standing up without assistance.

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Electing Trump in 2016 was the biggest frick you to the establishment that voters have ever done. 2020 election is just people realizing that it felt damn good.

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Damned silly way to behave but there is a large element of that. I don't think it has as much impact in 2020 because his track record speaks for itself and, despite much blather and his constantly saying shite simply for shock value to humor his supporters whose only support is based on his trolling abilities, has not been nearly as disastrous as many thought it would be. The economy has been robust until recently and I don't think many voters hold him liable for the economic impact of the virus because it really isn't his call alone. There was enough opposition in the GOP through 2018 to keep him in check and his lame duck status in 2020 will provide more of that if the democrats lose the house. I do not like Trump AT ALL....I think he is, as a person, a despicable human being....but his platform has largely been one of the Democratic Party before Bill Clinton moved the party closer to Reagan than LBJ and FDR and he has done some shite that I would have never thought possible....namely he has flat out laid the lie to the entire austerity and Hayek mentality in the GOP. He has proven that "conservatives" will support huge increases in government spending to stimulate the economy IF it is their man doing the spending....and that means a much needed, long overdue end to Reagan and the damage done to working people in the US. Going forward both parties are going to pay lip service to American workers and not to open markets and this will stem the growth of wealth at the top and shrinking wages in the middle....the right has finally come to realize that buying a Toyota may be the best personal choice but it isn't necessarily what is best for the nation...and DJT has allowed those who were wont to recognize this the freedom to do so without fear of being labled a liberal.