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re: Where would Europe turn, if not the USA?

Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:36 am to
Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:36 am to

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If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.


You dolt ….. they are already embracing China …. and Islam as well.

Their stupid climate policies and adoption of green energy (WEF) will be the death of Europe.

Let them turn to each other …..
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:37 am to
Hell, where will Canada turn? Their economy is going to shite and the head guy got elected running on 'We don't need no Trump!'
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:39 am to
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If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.


So you're saying European countries would saddle up to a communist, tyrannical dictatorship?? There is no help for them.

We are in the early kinetic stages of a war with BRICS. Europe has to wrap their heads around that before they know which direction they need to walk. Most just want to continue to live their good life as they have for a half century.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:45 am to
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They're the way they are because they haven't had to actually worry about anything for quite a long time now thanks to us.


Trump basically did this to Europe. Their plan was to coast on the coattails of our largesse and the military dollars spent in their countries.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:51 am to
That’s easy. They’re on their way to being Chinadia
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:53 am to
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That’s easy. They’re on their way to being Chinadia


If Canada drives too far out of their lane, we will go up there and straighten them out. It is not in our National Interest to have nasties north of our long, long border. Mexico is a tougher problem.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:56 am to
They’re a Commonwealth nation, which means England, Australia, New Zealand would be on the other side of that tussle. Not sure how we allowed Canada to keep it strong ties with the crown of England with the Monroe doctrine. Probably should revisit that.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:05 am to
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If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.


China would have zero tolerance of an Islamic infested Europe.

China treats Islam like a dangerous virus.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55412 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:10 am to
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If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.

Getting close to China is surrendering to what America has been protecting them from.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:10 am to
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We are in the early kinetic stages of a war with BRICS

BRICS is a nothingburger

The only thing that would make BRICS something worth addressing is ceding the EU and UK to them. THEN it's the early kinetic stages of a "war"

If they also got AUS/NZ, Mexico, and Canada the US would be in a world of hurt.

Which is exactly why you don't irrationally piss off your allies for no gain, which has been a major aim, apparently, of Trump 2.0's admin.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:11 am to
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Getting close to China is surrendering to what America has been protecting them from.

China isn't going to invade the EU

They're going to engage in lots of trade and get richer and develop higher SOLs due to the trade.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3882 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:18 am to
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China treats Islam like a dangerous virus.
So they have at least one redeeming quality then.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23980 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:20 am to
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They’re a Commonwealth nation, which means England, Australia, New Zealand would be on the other side of that tussle. Not sure how we allowed Canada to keep it strong ties with the crown of England with the Monroe doctrine. Probably should revisit that.

If they saddle up to the Chinese (they won't), we will go up there and straighten it out. We'd be remiss to do otherwise.
This is all a hypothetical because they won't. Canada has to live beside us even after the age of Trump. Right now they have a severe case of TDS.

So I have a friend who has good Canadian friends who have lived down here for about six months out of the year. And they've done so for years. They own a house here. They are generally conservative meaning they did not like Trudeau and the liberal party. But they are so eaten up with TDS they can't see past their noses. My buddy just cuts them off when in conversation, when they go down the TDS rabbit hole. But they were conservative before Trump. That's your typical Canadian nowadays.
Posted by mwrawls
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:21 am to
Europe is the premier example of what happens to people when someone else pays for everything they have.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 9:22 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:23 am to
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they have at least one redeeming quality then.


China and Japan make no apology for being an ethnostate.

It is an important layer of their defense and preservation strategy.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49515 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:25 am to
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If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.

so what?? = let Europe decide if they want to be pawns of China or allies of the USA.

I've long been disgusted with our continued support of the UN in view of their sucking up to every anti-American faction that erupts, and now that is spilling over to hating NATO for the same reason.

It appears that the USA is going to have to stand alone to prevent the destruction of western civilization - I'd rather have that made clear now while we still have options left and some nations that can be counted on to be on our side.

If we wait until the entire European continent is under control of the mullahs, we will surely be standing alone -

Rip the scab off this infection now.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
35010 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:27 am to
They would turn on each other yet again.

The leftists of the world consider Europe civilized yet they have given us; the crusades, two world wars and on the verge of a third.

They can’t help it
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:29 am to
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leftists of the world consider Europe civilized yet they have given us; the crusades, two world wars


No one has killed white people more than other white people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476438 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:32 am to
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so what?? = let Europe decide if they want to be pawns of China or allies of the USA.

We need Europe economically.

We don't need China to become stronger economically.

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It appears that the USA is going to have to stand alone

We can't. This is MAGA/AF insanity.

And we can't rely on poor countries to be our primary allies.

And we need to remain strong to protect the petrodollar.

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If we wait until the entire European continent is under control of the mullahs,

You can discount any post ITT that references this. You've ceded rationality for emotional arguments.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1809 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:51 am to
That would be awesome. It would make snatching up their leaders and holding them accountable or Ayatollahing them much easier once they under the protection of Xi and Putin.
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