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Where is the crowd in the reflection of Air Force 2?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:50 pm
Is this an angle thing or is the crowd fake?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:51 pm to stout
More deep state lies
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:59 pm to stout
The crowd is AI generated. It's obvious. Just look at the person on the right hand side of the photo with his right arm raised. His arm is over 4 feet long and he is over 8 feet tall.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:59 pm to stout
Its 100% AI fake. Look at the full pic. No tail number. Hands are off. Pics of audience phones shows different things. And on and on.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:02 pm to stout
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This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:02 pm to stout
Poor Harry Sidon believes this is real
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:04 pm to stout
So fake.
Kamala = artificial intelligence.
Trump = intelligence.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:04 pm to stout
Where was the photo posted? Was it from the official campaign?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:05 pm to stout
Wait, you really believe this photo was meant to show an actual crowd on the run way cheering and waiting for the vice president and her running Mate????
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:07 pm to stout
I put this picture in ChatGPT and asked it if it was real. It suggests it may not be real.
Edit: This is what ChatGPT told me:
"This image shows some potentially odd artifacts that have been circled, which could be indicative of an AI-generated or manipulated photo. Here’s what stands out:
1. Reflection Anomalies: The reflections on the airplane engine, particularly in the blue section, seem unclear or inconsistent with the surroundings. These kinds of irregularities can occur in AI-generated images, where reflections don’t accurately match the environment.
2. Crowd Inconsistencies: The circled areas in the crowd suggest there might be issues with how people are rendered. In AI-generated images, crowds can sometimes have duplicated or distorted features, unusual hand or arm placements, or inconsistent lighting.
3. General Artifacts: The arrows pointing to the area under the aircraft might be highlighting inconsistencies or unusual patterns that don’t align with normal photographic details, such as shadows or light reflections.
These artifacts could suggest that the image has been manipulated or generated by AI. However, without more advanced analysis tools, it’s difficult to definitively confirm whether the image is AI-generated or simply edited in some other way. If this image is important for verification, using specialized detection tools or consulting with a digital forensics expert would be the best approach."
Edit 2: This is what ChatGPT said when I asked it to describe the odd artifacts noticed in the first analysis, ignore the items circled, and make a judgement:
“Analyzing the first photo independently of the circled areas, here are some odd artifacts and inconsistencies that stand out:
1. Reflections on the Engine:
The reflections on the airplane engine, particularly the blue section, look somewhat unusual. The reflections don't seem to match the surrounding environment accurately. In a real photograph, reflections should mirror the objects and environment around them more precisely, especially on such a large, smooth surface.
2. Crowd Anomalies:
The crowd has some areas where the people’s features seem slightly blurred or unclear, especially towards the edges of the photo. This could be due to motion blur, but it also might indicate some level of manipulation or AI generation where the software struggled with rendering fine details.
3. Shadow Inconsistencies:
The shadows cast by people in the crowd appear inconsistent in length and direction. In a natural setting, shadows would be more uniform based on the lighting source. Some shadows look slightly off in relation to the positions of the individuals. The shadows of the people on the aircraft do not align with the shadows of the people in the crowd.
4. Staircase and Aircraft Details:
The area where the staircase connects to the aircraft seems somewhat off. There’s a slight unnaturalness in how the door, staircase, and the figures exiting the plane are integrated into the rest of the scene. The alignment and lighting in that area seem a bit too clean or perfect, which might indicate some level of manipulation.
5. General Focus and Clarity:
The overall focus of the image appears inconsistent. Some areas are sharp, while others seem more blurred or lacking detail in ways that don’t align with a typical depth-of-field effect. This unevenness can be a sign of AI generation, where some parts of an image are rendered with more precision than others.
These observations suggest that the image might have been manipulated or generated, particularly when considering the unnatural reflections, shadow inconsistencies, and overall lack of uniformity in focus and clarity. However, without more advanced tools, it's hard to definitively conclude the extent of any manipulation.”
Edit: This is what ChatGPT told me:
"This image shows some potentially odd artifacts that have been circled, which could be indicative of an AI-generated or manipulated photo. Here’s what stands out:
1. Reflection Anomalies: The reflections on the airplane engine, particularly in the blue section, seem unclear or inconsistent with the surroundings. These kinds of irregularities can occur in AI-generated images, where reflections don’t accurately match the environment.
2. Crowd Inconsistencies: The circled areas in the crowd suggest there might be issues with how people are rendered. In AI-generated images, crowds can sometimes have duplicated or distorted features, unusual hand or arm placements, or inconsistent lighting.
3. General Artifacts: The arrows pointing to the area under the aircraft might be highlighting inconsistencies or unusual patterns that don’t align with normal photographic details, such as shadows or light reflections.
These artifacts could suggest that the image has been manipulated or generated by AI. However, without more advanced analysis tools, it’s difficult to definitively confirm whether the image is AI-generated or simply edited in some other way. If this image is important for verification, using specialized detection tools or consulting with a digital forensics expert would be the best approach."
Edit 2: This is what ChatGPT said when I asked it to describe the odd artifacts noticed in the first analysis, ignore the items circled, and make a judgement:
“Analyzing the first photo independently of the circled areas, here are some odd artifacts and inconsistencies that stand out:
1. Reflections on the Engine:
The reflections on the airplane engine, particularly the blue section, look somewhat unusual. The reflections don't seem to match the surrounding environment accurately. In a real photograph, reflections should mirror the objects and environment around them more precisely, especially on such a large, smooth surface.
2. Crowd Anomalies:
The crowd has some areas where the people’s features seem slightly blurred or unclear, especially towards the edges of the photo. This could be due to motion blur, but it also might indicate some level of manipulation or AI generation where the software struggled with rendering fine details.
3. Shadow Inconsistencies:
The shadows cast by people in the crowd appear inconsistent in length and direction. In a natural setting, shadows would be more uniform based on the lighting source. Some shadows look slightly off in relation to the positions of the individuals. The shadows of the people on the aircraft do not align with the shadows of the people in the crowd.
4. Staircase and Aircraft Details:
The area where the staircase connects to the aircraft seems somewhat off. There’s a slight unnaturalness in how the door, staircase, and the figures exiting the plane are integrated into the rest of the scene. The alignment and lighting in that area seem a bit too clean or perfect, which might indicate some level of manipulation.
5. General Focus and Clarity:
The overall focus of the image appears inconsistent. Some areas are sharp, while others seem more blurred or lacking detail in ways that don’t align with a typical depth-of-field effect. This unevenness can be a sign of AI generation, where some parts of an image are rendered with more precision than others.
These observations suggest that the image might have been manipulated or generated, particularly when considering the unnatural reflections, shadow inconsistencies, and overall lack of uniformity in focus and clarity. However, without more advanced tools, it's hard to definitively conclude the extent of any manipulation.”
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:10 pm to stout
The really fishy part to me is the lack of crowd reflection particularly on the engine nacelle. From that, it looks like one person was standing there with an umbrella.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:11 pm to stout
Sure, they lied this time, but they were totally on the level when they they told you that the Russians helped elect Trump in 2016,
and that COVID came from contaminated bats from a wet market,
and that the COVID shot was not only safe and effective, but would stop transmission between people,
and that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinfo,
and the 2020 election was not only totally legit, but it was the most secure in our nations history.
This was the only time they lied, baw.
and that COVID came from contaminated bats from a wet market,
and that the COVID shot was not only safe and effective, but would stop transmission between people,
and that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinfo,
and the 2020 election was not only totally legit, but it was the most secure in our nations history.
This was the only time they lied, baw.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:12 pm to BigApple
quote:
Wait, you really believe this photo was meant to show an actual crowd on the run way cheering and waiting for the vice president and her running Mate????
What message was this photo meant to convey?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:14 pm to GRTiger
BigApple is one of the dumbest posters here.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:15 pm to GRTiger
I have not seen it shared officially by the campaign but to me it just a montage that someone would put together for press releases or advertisements. Absolutely not meant to trick people into believing that is an actual crowd at the airport
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:16 pm to OU Guy
Where are the numbers on the tail wing?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:18 pm to BigApple
Hmm, that sounds about as contrived as anything anyone else is saying. Clearly the intent was to imitate support for a very unlikeable candidate, whomever created and disseminated it.
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