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Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:56 am to UnclePat76
immigration and our shite educational system
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:57 am to UnclePat76
When the Teacher's Unions took full control of the education system.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:16 am to UnclePat76
If you have ever listened to the reasoning behind the voting patterns of the older generation, you’ll probably hear that their parents always told them to vote that way.
Because education on cause and effect has always been shitty with government run schools, I doubt there ever was a time we had a well informed electorate.
But things definitely got worse with the “get out the vote” push. We started pushing people to vote that otherwise never would because they were never well informed. They complied.
Because education on cause and effect has always been shitty with government run schools, I doubt there ever was a time we had a well informed electorate.
But things definitely got worse with the “get out the vote” push. We started pushing people to vote that otherwise never would because they were never well informed. They complied.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:18 am to UnclePat76
I don't know when it started, but it has definitely gotten worse in the age of everyone has a voice via FB, twitter... and you can not disagree/argue with anyone without being racist/sexist...
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:18 am to UnclePat76
People have no common sense . Even the politicians they vote for seem lost .
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:19 am to UnclePat76
This is a major issue with mail-in voting. Grandma and Grandpa have no idea who their children are voting for on their behalf let alone the issues.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:20 am to UnclePat76
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When did this country lose well informed voters?
Back then most voters were uninformed unless they sought out information.
Today, the idiot boxes (tv and computer) bring garbage info right to the voters, who then believe it makes them informed, and tells them they don't need to seek out their own information.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:21 am to BhamDore
Frankfort School domination of education and legal system in US.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:23 am to UnclePat76
“No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people” H. L. Mencken.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:24 am to UnclePat76
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After reading how Mondale got his lunch handed to him in 84’,
The Dems ran Carter for re-election in 80, and then ran the guy who lose re-election as VP, Mondale, for President in 84, and got destroyed.
They then ran a weird NE governor in 88, lost again. It wasn't until 92 when a new generation, young governor from the South ran and, against all odds, won.
Let this be a lesson for the GOP. All is not lost forever, but it's going to take someone young and new and able to speak to younger voters, in order for the GOP to get back the Presidency.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:24 am to UnclePat76
Your whole premise is wrong, that voters were ever well-informed... However, in the old days people at least had to go out of their way to find "information". They at least had to make it a point to watch the news.
Now Facebook, twitter, and all the other social platforms tell them everything they "need to know".
Now Facebook, twitter, and all the other social platforms tell them everything they "need to know".
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:25 am to UnclePat76
August 18, 1920.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:27 am to UnclePat76
When Trump got elected, it became painfully aware that voters didn’t even give a shite what their candidate stood for, but it started for me when many voted for Obama solely based on race.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:30 am to UnclePat76
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After reading how Mondale got his lunch handed to him in 84’, what has happened since that election to lock CA in particular to be a solid blue state? Was it immigration? Reagan offering and getting amnesty for illegals?
Reagan's amnesty mainly but carpetbaggers from the Northeast expedited the process.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:31 am to BlackAdam
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We have never had a terribly informed electorate
This is in unaltered truth. The 1984 election in particular holds this fact in full relief. Mondale was fully capable of executing the office of the president well, but that election was all about personalities, and America embraced Reagan who was charismatic and projected a grandfatherly, nonthreatening approach, whereby Mondale's dull, colorless, quasirobotic demeanor really turned voters off.
Many debate watchers felt Mondale carried the second of the debates, the one that Reagan briefly dozed off.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:35 am to Indefatigable
quote:There was, for a short while.
There has never been a well informed electorate.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:40 am to UnclePat76
I would argue that the problem now isn't uninformed voters, but misinformed voters...social media is primarily responsible for this.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:40 am to Willie Stroker
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you’ll probably hear that their parents always told them to vote that way.
In this vein, when government workers(teachers) are in charge of education, the yield is people for bigger government, it doesn’t take much to connect the dots.
Also the “inconvenience” of leaving work and voting has been annihilated, so now it’s oh so convenient, and oh, corrupt
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:41 am to Tom288
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When did we have them?
Not when I was growing up in the 50s.
Candidates talked down to the public because the average voter could only understand a slogan. The most repeated one for the Dems was:
'We are for the workin' man. The republicans are for the rich man.'
One of the most hotly contested races in La. was between John McKeithen and Chep Morrison. McKeithen's slogan was 'Won't you hep me?'
Morrison's was 'It's up to you!'
This created the joke that went around the state:
McKeithen and Morrison were having dinner. McKeithen said 'My steak is too tough for me to cut. Can you hep me?'
Morrison: 'No, John. It's up to you.'
McKeithen won for one reason. The rest of La. had zero trust in a politician from New Orleans.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:42 am
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