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When an Idiot Senator takes Scripture out of context to justify the idiot’s beliefs.

Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9362 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:24 pm
But because earned Master of Divinity, Master of Philosophy, and Doctor of Philosophy degrees from Union Theological Seminary, a school affiliated with Columbia University, I’ll cut him some slack, philosophy degrees ?





Romans 13:1–7 makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country. Illegal immigration is a sin.

Illegal immigration is a controversial issue in the United States and some other countries today. Some argue that the immigration laws are unfair, unjust, and even discriminatory—thus giving individuals justification to immigrate illegally. However, Romans 13:1–7 does not give permission to violate a law just because it is perceived as unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a government’s law is if that law violates God’s Word. When Paul wrote the book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by Emperor Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, or blatantly evil. Still, Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.

All developed countries have immigration laws, some more strict than those of the US and some less strict, but all countries have to deal with illegal immigration. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having open borders or closed borders. The Bible does give government the authority to make laws and punish lawbreakers (Romans 13:1–7). Whether the punishment is imprisonment, deportation, or something more severe, a government has the right to enforce its laws.

Illegal immigration is a complex issue. Most illegal immigrants in the United States have come for the purpose of seeking a better life, providing for their families, and escaping poverty. These are good goals and motivations. However, it is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do (Galatians 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15); however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking. Supporting, enabling, or encouraging illegal immigration is a violation of God’s Word. Those seeking to emigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. Yes, dealing with red tape may cause delays and frustrations, but it is better than acting illegally. A frustrating law is still a law.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9362 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:26 pm to
Please SFP, relentless, VOR, etc, please make a ruling and bless me with your wisdom
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3152 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
The fact we ever allowed people who hate God to dictate how we should follow him is ridiculous. I’ll stick to gathering my insights based on those who actually change their behavior due to their faith as opposed to those who just ignore what they don’t like.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9893 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:34 pm to
Is running over your ex wife with a car in the Bible??
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7730 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:35 pm to
We’ve never had a more Christian president than Trump. frick this guy.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62677 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:35 pm to
Raphael Warnock: False Prophet
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16345 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:36 pm to
Exactly.

It can literally be translated to be caring of immigrants that come here under the laws of the jurisdiction.

The New Testament , including Christ, told us to respect government officials and mind the law multiple times.

Just as much, if not more, than it says to be nice to immigrants.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12181 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
Warnock is a dumber Jessie Jackson
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69103 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 12:40 pm to
People who invoke the name of Jesus or the bible in order to justify their sinister deeds are right near the bottom of the humanity totem pole for me.
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1763 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

We’ve never had a more Christian president than Trump




Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50993 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Is running over your ex wife with a car in the Bible?


Winner.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83154 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:08 pm to
I love it when atheist leftists suddenly become Bible experts
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7730 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:09 pm to
Care to share with everyone else what you find so funny?

Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50993 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

We’ve never had a more Christian president than Trump.


He’s as Christian as any of the others, unless we had Jesus as President.

Some Catholics may claim JFK and Biden were more Christian lol.

As a former Catholic, I wouldn’t make that claim.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3131 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:33 pm to
A lecture on Christianity according to agnostic/athiest, leftist non-believers.

Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53596 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Some Catholics may claim JFK and Biden were more Christian lol.

As a former Catholic, I wouldn’t make that claim.


What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50993 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:43 pm to
Some Catholics consider themselves to be more “Christian” than Protestants.

Therefore, those Catholics may claim that JFK and Biden were more Christian than Trump solely based upon JFK and Biden being Catholic and Trump being Protestant.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17500 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:44 pm to
Imagine living your life based on a jewish fairy tale.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8880 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

We’ve never had a more Christian president than Trump. frick this guy.


I don’t know about that. I would say he is the most pro-Christian president we’ve had in a long time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466271 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Please SFP, relentless, VOR, etc, please make a ruling and bless me with your wisdom

Jesus spoke about personal choices, not government policy. He's wrong.
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