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re: What Trump has done with violent crime in 1 year is remarkable
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most Americans cant tell the difference between refugee and illegal.
Refugees are suppose to stop at the first friendly country.
Sounds like you need to learn the difference between economic refugee and asylum seeker.
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:51 pm to Azkiger
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Refugees are suppose to stop at the first friendly country.
Joe was flying them in.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You switched
When did I ever say federal policy led to the decrease of crime? If you look back you'll see me saying that Trump is head of MAGA and MAGA pushes more policing, not less.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Joe was flying them in.
Flew over lots of perfectly safe countries.
"My country is trying to kill me" isnt a golden ticket to choose wherever you want to live in the world. Same goes for I don't make as much as I'd like.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:54 pm to Azkiger
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When did I ever say federal policy led to the decrease of crime?
Your first post in this thread
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The increase in crime could also be BLM + Biden
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I did have to ETA on that one
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:56 pm to Azkiger
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Flew over lots of perfectly safe countries.
Like Mexico? Panama?
Just pointing out the difference between illegal and refugee/assylum.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:08 pm to 4cubbies
You know how. You would just have to have a lick of sense to also know that many cities have DA's that let many felonies, go free. Gangs, cartel have built up untethered.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the majority of posters on this board are intellectually consistent, they will claim these are made up/fake numbers and the Trump admin is cooking the books.
This doesn't follow
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There are TONS of receipts about this from just last year when that was the explanation for crime falling under Biden.
This is a YOY comparison, even if Biden's flawed reporting artificially decreased the violent crime rate.
This is basic logic. If you want to make the case that Trump (relative to Biden) is cooking the books, have at it. But, flawed reporting from the Biden era wouldn't results in a continual decrease in crime reporting.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Na. It is because you are a complete fraud. That part of my statement didn't fit the narrative of your weak response. You are a liberal. You attack every single thing conservatives do yet you are too weak willed to admit it. So you are nothing more than a phony.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Like Mexico?
Sure, if Mexico isn't trying to kill them why can't they go there?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Point to the specific policies that Biden was doing to reduce crime.
Now do the same for Trump.
Biden claimed “crime is down” when there were no receipts nor policies to back up that claim. We have that with Trump. It’s the same policies you keep crying over. Hint: illegal immigration = mass crime. Mass deportations = lower crime. National guard in crime ridden cities = lower crime.
That’s the difference. This isn’t hard, unless less you are infected with TDS.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:23 pm to RohanGonzales
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You are a piece of shite.
It went down. Just because the Biden is not proof that the Trump admin lies.
It just keeps getting better and better.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:25 pm to MSCGA
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Per usual, you are getting bodied in here.
Another one.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:50 pm to moneyg
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This is a YOY comparison, even if Biden's flawed reporting artificially decreased the violent crime rate.
If the data is fake, then the data is fake.
You seem to be pivoting and ignoring the simple point.
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If you want to make the case that Trump (relative to Biden) is cooking the books, have at it.
But I'm not. That isn't the argument at all
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. But, flawed reporting from the Biden era wouldn't results in a continual decrease in crime reporting.
Correct reporting reflecting a consistent decline would result in a continued decrease, which is what we're seeing.
Trying to argue your team's data is legit but the same data from your perceived out group/opponent/competition is illegitimate is the height of hypocrisy and dishonest rhetoric.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:53 pm to TigerMyth36
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You are a liberal.
Attacking dumb MAGA points and policies and behaviors doesn't make me a liberal. That's a very flawed analysis based on irrational binary perspective.
Originally my big problem was MAGA was the economic leftism (which makes your argument even more hilarious).
Now we've added, "I don't want to look dumb as shite" in addition to the above. That really ramped up during Q and only got worse after the whole "the steal" era.
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You attack every single thing conservatives do yet you are too weak willed to admit it.
I attack MAGA/Trump when they do dumb or leftist shite, almost exclusively.
That doesn't make me a leftist. It makes those policies/behaviors of Trump/MAGA dumb and/ or leftist.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:57 pm to BugAC
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Point to the specific policies that Biden was doing to reduce crime.
Why would I when I never claimed his policies led to a reduction in crime?
In fact, I argued plenty that federal policy has extremely minimal impact on total crime in the US. That applies to Trump as well.
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Biden claimed “crime is down” when there were no receipts nor policies to back up that claim.
There was data, which is more relevant to the wording you used.
There is also data that crime decrease is continuing during the Trump admin, which I specifically predicted last year.
The post-Covid crime spike wasn't about federal criminal policy, from Biden or Trump (either admin), and I never argued it was.
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. Hint: illegal immigration = mass crime. Mass deportations = lower crime. National guard in crime ridden cities = lower crime.
Except crime was already going down WITHOUT these policies, under Biden.
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That’s the difference
There isn't a difference. That is the problem with your argument.
You're citing policies of Trump that didn't exist in 2023 and 2024 with Biden, and yet crime still cratered nationally. Logic indicates it wasn't the policies, in either admin.
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This isn’t hard, unless less you are infected with TDS.
How are you using TDS when I haven't been critical of Trump at all in any way ITT?
The issue was BDS, and the rejection of reality last year. And me being able to use basic logic criticizing irrational takes on Biden in no way means I support Biden. This is the "reject stupidity" stuff I referenced above. I refuse to do that.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:51 pm to cajunangelle
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You know how. You would just have to have a lick of sense to also know that many cities have DA's that let many felonies, go free. Gangs, cartel have built up untethered.
Did Trump prosecute the criminals that the DAs let go free? How many did he prosecute this quickly that resulted in the drop in crime? I guess he got Bondi to charge them in federal court?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Trying to argue your team's data is legit but the same data from your perceived out group/opponent/competition is illegitimate is the height of hypocrisy and dishonest rhetoric.
I didn’t do that at all. I pointed out that your argument failed a very basic logic flaw. It did.
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